<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; ">I wish I had time to contribute to all of this properly - next month after our portal launch I should. My quick take on this is that a proxified LSID is not to be treated as a GUID. A proxy's responsibility should simply be to retrieve the data for an LSID.<DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I recognise that there are still many concerns (often mutually contradictory) about how this LSID infrastructure can and will actually work out. Right now, however, we have a significant number of projects of different sizes all setting up LSIDs and LSID resolution for their data, mostly in time for the meeting in Bratislava. I believe that we should seek to document all of these experiences to determine the success of the approach. As I suggested before the current proposal to use a proxy in certain contexts is an attempt to address a range of specific concerns about some aspects of the standard, but should also give us the opportunity to switch smoothly to an HTTP URI-based approach if that ultimately does seem more sensible.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>I think the critical thing is for us to respond to the call Chuck issued earlier to have some kind of "Bratislava Declaration" that provides a clear and coherent statement of how and when to use LSIDs - I will make it a priority in July to contribute to producing such a statement. Most of the constituent parts already exist, but they clearly need better packaging and some fine tuning.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Thanks,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Donald<BR><DIV> <SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><SPAN class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; 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margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Is the http proxy a GUID?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">What vouches for an assertion that a given proxy actually resolves the</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">associated LSID?</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">On 6/12/07, Kevin Richards <<A href="mailto:RichardsK@landcareresearch.co.nz">RichardsK@landcareresearch.co.nz</A>> wrote:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">The main use of the LSID http proxy would be when you have an RDF document</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">or a triple store full of data that has BOTH the LSID and the http version</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">(as described on the wiki page</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/GUID/LsidHttpProxyUsageRecommendation">http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/GUID/LsidHttpProxyUsageRecommendation</A>).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">If ALL you had was the LSID</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">"<A href="URN:LSID">URN:LSID</A>:landcareresearch.co.nz:Names:0F9D60F1-59C7-495D-A37E-09C23770DD18"</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">and no other data at all, and you want to resolve it using the http proxy,</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">then yes you are a bit stuck (as far as I know).<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Unless we set up an LSID</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">http proxy repository that can be queried and returns the http proxy url for</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">an LSID?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>Or you could just use the "hard coded" http proxy resolver at</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http:/lsid.tdwg.org/[lsid]">http:/lsid.tdwg.org/[lsid]</A>.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Kevin</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">>>> "Gregor Hagedorn" <<A href="mailto:G.Hagedorn@BBA.DE">G.Hagedorn@BBA.DE</A>> 12/06/2007 7:17:35 p.m. >>></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> For those wanting another LSID http proxy example, I have changed our</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> LSID resolver here at Landcare to serve up the proxy compliant RDF.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> Eg</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="http://lsid.landcareresearch.co.nz/lsid/URN:LSID:landcareresearch.co.nz:Names:0F9D60F1-59C7-495D-A37E-09C23770DD18">http://lsid.landcareresearch.co.nz/lsid/URN:LSID:landcareresearch.co.nz:Names:0F9D60F1-59C7-495D-A37E-09C23770DD18</A></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> returns the metadata for the lsid</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="URN:LSID">URN:LSID</A>:landcareresearch.co.nz:Names:0F9D60F1-59C7-495D-A37E-09C23770DD18</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> I took me about an hour to change the RDF generator and setup a</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">> redirection web directory on our web server (Microsoft IIS).</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I have an object with</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><A href="URN:LSID">URN:LSID</A>:landcareresearch.co.nz:Names:0F9D60F1-59C7-495D-A37E-09C23770DD18</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I think the problem is that, without me telling my software something I have</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">gathered from this email, my software has no means to know about what you</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">describe as easy.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Unless it has an LSID resolver, in which case it would not need the http</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; 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