<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Hi Rod,</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"> The Perl implemented
authorities run on port 80 and the Java ones (which are NCBI etc..) run
on port 9090. However, NCBI recently upated their web services causing
our Java stuff to break. We are in the midst of fixing it. As
for the ontologies themselves, I couldn't agree more. However, the
task of implementing the ontologies was so daunting that as a first pass,
I just did a naive transliteration from their Web Service XML format to
RDF and wrote Axis-Jastor translation code in the middle. My hope
is to begin replacing predicates with DC predicates where possible, and
have domain experts suggest ontologies that we could reuse for the more
bio-specific predicates. </font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">- Ben</font>
<br>
<br><tt><font size=2>Roderic Page <r.page@bio.gla.ac.uk> wrote on
05/08/2006 04:12:16 AM:<br>
<br>
> Dear Ben,<br>
> <br>
> Who do I contact regarding the lsid.biopathways.org resolver? It's
a <br>
> bit flaky, and I think the DNS SRV record is out of date. My crude
LSID <br>
> tester reports errors (e.g., <br>
> http://linnaeus.zoology.gla.ac.uk/~rpage/lsid/tester/? <br>
> q=urn%3Alsid%3Ancbi.nlm.nih.gov.lsid.biopathways.org%3Apubmed%3A12441807
<br>
> ), which I suspect is because the SRV record states the resolver is
on <br>
> port 9090, when it's actually on port 80 (at least, I get a WSDL from
<br>
> http://lsid.biopathways.org:80/authority/ but not <br>
> http://lsid.biopathways.org:9090/authority/).<br>
> <br>
> As an aside, I guess this is an interesting management issue -- how
<br>
> does one discover who to complain to when an LSID authority is broken?<br>
> <br>
> I've had a quick look at the PubMed stuff that I did manage to get
out <br>
> of the Biopathways site. My concern about this is that it perhaps
<br>
> models the PubMed record a little too closely (in the same way that
a <br>
> lot of NCBI's XML is horrendous as it models the underlying ASN.1
- <br>
> yuck). If we're going to integrate this stuff with other providers
<br>
> (e.g., RDF feeds from the publishing industry or projects like <br>
> Connotea) then I think we need to adopt generic vocabularies (such
as <br>
> Dublin Core and PRISM), rather than object specific ones. I think
the <br>
> last thing a user wants to do is have to learn a new vocabulary for
<br>
> each data source. That rather defeats the dream of easy integration.<br>
> <br>
> Regards<br>
> <br>
> Rod<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> On 6 May 2006, at 15:43, Benjamin H Szekely wrote:<br>
> <br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Rod,<br>
> > We have implementations of NCBI Pubmed, Genbank,
Protein, and <br>
> > OMIM. Gene is on the way. I'm in the process of updating
our <br>
> > implementations since the NCBI upgraded their web service to
1.4. I <br>
> > have created OWL ontologies for the various databases that you
might <br>
> > find useful in your implementation. They will be posted
online soon <br>
> > but I could send them to you if you like.<br>
> ><br>
> > - Ben<br>
> ><br>
> > tdwg-guid-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu wrote on 05/06/2006 06:12:13
AM:<br>
> ><br>
> > > The web server that hosts most of my LSID work (including
the <br>
> > Taxonomy <br>
> > > Search Engine) got hacked recently. Rebuilding it
is taking time, <br>
> > but <br>
> > > one positive outcome is I'm trying to clean up some
LSID stuff.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I've rebuilt the LSID authority for PubMed, GenBank,
and NCBI <br>
> > taxonomy <br>
> > > (by hacking Roger Hyam's PHP code - IBM's Perl stack
is giving me <br>
> > grief <br>
> > > on a Fedora Core 4 box). These are, of course, experimental,
but <br>
> > > hopefully the RDF will be of interest. I've tried
to use standard <br>
> > > vocabularies, and link between records wherever
possible (e.g., a <br>
> > > PubMed record for a paper will list sequences referred
to in that <br>
> > > paper, a sequence will link back to the paper in which
it was <br>
> > > published, etc.). I've set this up partly to support
my attempt to <br>
> > > build a triple store for ants (see <br>
> > > <br>
> > http://iphylo.blogspot.com/2006/05/ants-rdf-and-triple-stores.html),
<br>
> > > which I hope to have running in time for GUID2.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > You can try out the LSIDs, which have the form<br>
> > ><br>
> > > urn:lsid:ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.lsid.zoology.gla.ac.uk:
pubmed or gi or <br>
> > <br>
> > > taxon : id<br>
> > ><br>
> > > e.g.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > urn:lsid:ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.lsid.zoology.gla.ac.uk:pubmed:16601190<br>
> > ><br>
> > > urn:lsid:ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.lsid.zoology.gla.ac.uk:gi:87047074<br>
> > ><br>
> > > urn:lsid:ncbi.nlm.nih.gov.lsid.zoology.gla.ac.uk:taxon:369204<br>
> > ><br>
> > > There's a lot more which could be added to the metadata,
but I hope <br>
> > <br>
> > > this is of interest.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Regards<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Rod<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > <br>
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