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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks, Roger for the clarification from
TAG-1. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suspect that we still have some
confusion between what should be part of the biodiversity ontology and what is
actually data described by that ontology. (Of course this is not at all
surprising, since the boundary has to be arbitrary.)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I understand the TAG meeting’s
concerns, we should ensure that software libraries are able to access any
definition elements required for them to validate the form and content of
exchange documents, and that it would be foolish to use LSIDs in such situations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Considering SDD as an example, my interpretation
of this is that the RDFS or other definitions for classes such as Character,
State or Modifier should be accessible through URLs. This does not mean that
the instances of these classes (i.e. what I might call the individual SDD data
elements) need themselves to be accessible in the same way. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I do understand that Gregor is concerned
about our ability to reason over the data as well as to validate the underlying
documents. However, if we do choose to use technologies such as OWL to support
such reasoning, I do not believe that we can expect to reason over fully
federated data. Surely we would expect to resolve the data (through LSIDs,
PURLs, or whatever else) and then process them locally? We should certainly
consider whether this is an issue, but we should keep it separate from the main
issue identified by the TAG.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I also suspect that LSIDs may be a really
good way for us to handle many of our “controlled” vocabularies. Obviously
those vocabularies which make up the definition of classes and their properties
may need URL access, but in many other contexts (including, I would have
thought, SDD) it may be more sensible to treat the vocabulary terms as data
objects. This will allow us to extend them with all kinds of metadata.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I would say that the major reason the GUID
meetings avoided adopting PURLs was simply that they give us no clean separation
between the identifier and the owner and location of the document. LSIDs
(provided we sort out appropriate best practices for how they are constructed)
may, among other things, give us an intermediate layer we can conveniently
manage to handle this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Donald<br>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> tdwg-tag-bounces@lists.tdwg.org
[mailto:tdwg-tag-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Roger Hyam<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 03 May 2006 12:29<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Roderic Page<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> tdwg-tag@lists.tdwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tdwg-tag] Why we
should not use LSID</span></font><font color=black><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Rod,<br>
<br>
>From the meeting report - which I am struggling to get back to - these two
bullet points sum it up I think<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'>·<span style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'></span></font><font
size=1><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></span></font><span lang=EN-GB>There are certain things for which LSIDs
are not appropriate. It would be legal to use them for RDF resource identifiers
for controlled vocabularies and XML Schema locations BUT we would have to
extend existing software libraries to do this which is not desirable.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font
size=3 color=black face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:12.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'>·<span style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'></span></font><font
size=1><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></span></font><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-weight:bold'>Recommendation:</span></b><span
lang=EN-GB> LSIDs are not used for controlled vocabularies, ontologies or XML
Schema locations. LSIDs should be used to refer to instances.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Basically it was felt that if we used LSIDs for things
like rdfs:Class definitions then any library that went off to fetch the
definitions automatically would have to be extended so that it understood LSID
resolution. On the other hand it was felt that use of LSIDs for real resources
(things we are actually describing like specimens and people) was fine. Once an
ontology is loaded then it is all fine though so to an extent this may be a
false problem.<br>
<br>
We spent a long time talking about what is part of the ontology and what isn't
and went round in circles (please lets not do it again). Basically class and
property descriptions should be URL type URIs but instance URIs can be LSIDs.
If you want to define the genus <i><span style='font-style:italic'>Rhododendron</span></i>
as being an OWL DL class retrieved remotely then you should probably give it a
URL. If you want to define it as a data item then use a LSID.<br>
<br>
I think Gregor's worries (correct me if I am wrong Gregor) are that in SDD
(possibly our whole domain) many things could be considered classes and
properties. i.e. Things you want your reasoner to use in the reasoning rather
than simply reason about. In this case it may be better to have URLs for everything.<br>
<br>
There is a niggling doubt (in my mind) that we may come across 'cool' tools and
libraries that assume that <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>all </span></b>resource
URIs are URLs and that we would not be able to use them or would need to extend
them if we use LSIDs. Imagine a semantic web browser where you click on a node
and it fetches the associated resource to expand itself. <br>
<br>
I do occasionally struggle to see the advantages of LSIDs as GUIDs over just
conventions for use of URLs but these may be matters of personal faith.
Another bullet point in the report says:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoBodyText style='margin-left:36.0pt;text-indent:-18.0pt'><font
size=2 color=black face=Symbol><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Symbol'>·<span style='font-size-adjust: none;font-stretch: normal'></span></font><font
size=1><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:7.0pt'>
</span></span></font><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-weight:bold'>Recommendation:
</span></b><span lang=EN-GB>GUIDs Group should issue a document clearly
justifying adoption of GUID technology. The advantages need to be clearly
explained.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I'll try and get this report out ASAP but it looks
very similar to the wiki page here:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TAG/TagMeeting1ReportDraft">http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TAG/TagMeeting1ReportDraft</a><br>
<br>
Obviously would be grateful for your thoughts. <br>
<br>
Roger<br>
<br>
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Roderic Page wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<pre wrap=""><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Dear Gregor,<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>For the benefit of those not at TAG 1, can you please explain why <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>"LSIDs are not interoperable with semantic web technologies"?<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Rod<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 2 May 2006, at 16:44, Gregor Hagedorn wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre>
<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt' type=cite><pre wrap=""><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Note that part of my concern about the use of concept when talking <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>about<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>classes/properties/data elements is that I more and more believe we <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>will want<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>to use ontology reasoners for uses other than software design, i.e. as <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>part of<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>what we currently consider data (taxon names, concepts, rank <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>hierarchy, parts<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>of organisms, properties of organisms, etc.). All these are ontological<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>concepts, and efforts <a
href="http://www.plantontology.org">www.plantontology.org</a> do use OWL to reason on <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>The SDD presentation (the one not held in EDI, attached) contained some<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>examples how we might want to query our data - in ways that <o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>OWL-for-software-<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>design seems not to cover - and which using LSIDs would even prevent.<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Please discuss:<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TAG/WhyWeShouldNotUseLSIDs">http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TAG/WhyWeShouldNotUseLSIDs</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TAG/UsePURLsAsGUIDs">http://wiki.tdwg.org/twiki/bin/view/TAG/UsePURLsAsGUIDs</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>----------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Phone: +44 141 330 4778<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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href="mailto:r.page@bio.gla.ac.uk">r.page@bio.gla.ac.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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href="http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/rod.html">http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/rod.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>reprints: <a
href="http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/pubs.html">http://taxonomy.zoology.gla.ac.uk/rod/pubs.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Search for taxon names: <a
href="http://darwin.zoology.gla.ac.uk/~rpage/portal/">http://darwin.zoology.gla.ac.uk/~rpage/portal/</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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href="http://ispecies.org">http://ispecies.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Rod's rants on phyloinformatics: <a
href="http://iphylo.blogspot.com">http://iphylo.blogspot.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
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