[tdwg-tag] string literals vs. uris for dwc:recordedBy, dwc:identifiedBy, and dwc:georeferencedBy in RDF

[Jim Croft]

wondering if
<dwc:recordedBy
rdf:resource="http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~steve.baskauf/foaf.rdf#me">Steve
Baskauf</dwc:recordedBy>
is legit?

just a have your cake and eat it kinda guy...

jim

On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Kevin Richards
<RichardsK at landcareresearch.co.nz> wrote:
> From my understanding (and after reading the example Bob referred to), the difference is:
>
> [referring to external id]
> <dwc:recordedBy rdf:resource="http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~steve.baskauf/foaf.rdf#me" />
>
> [inline text]
> <dwc:recordedBy>Steve Baskauf</dwc:recordedBy>
>
> Look right?
>
> Kevin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tdwg-tag-bounces at lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-tag-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Jim Croft
> Sent: Thursday, 20 May 2010 9:37 a.m.
> To: Bob Morris
> Cc: tdwg-tag at lists.tdwg.org
> Subject: Re: [tdwg-tag] string literals vs. uris for dwc:recordedBy, dwc:identifiedBy, and dwc:georeferencedBy in RDF
>
> Hi Bob - should the same term allow both types of content, or should
> there be a different term for each?  Does it matter?  Should
> applications be smart enough to tell the difference and know what to
> do with it?
>
> Not really asking what the specification says, but about purity and
> wholesomeness of design... :)
>
> jim
>
> On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Bob Morris <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Exactly this example is given in
>> http://web4.w3.org/TR/REC-rdf-syntax/#section-Syntax-property-attributes
>> so I would find it regrettable if DwC does something somewhere that
>> makes this substitution impossible or discouraged,  or encourages tool
>> construction that does so, or encourages documention be interpreted in
>> a way that does so.
>>
>> Indeed http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/rdf/dwcterms.rdf defines its type to be
>> rdf:Property and is silent on any semantics  but that. My own
>> conclusion is that neither the intent or the outcome of the rdf
>> version of dwcterms discourages what you want, though I suppose the
>> intent part would be clearer if the documentation also said that a URI
>> can always be used, but applications are responsible for interpreting
>> it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:09 AM, Steve Baskauf
>> <steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
>>> The definition for the Darwin Core term recordedBy
>>> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#recordedBy
>>> says "A list (concatenated and separated) of names ...".  The examples
>>> given are string literals.  However, when using this term as a predicate
>>> in RDF, it would seem preferable to use a URI to an RDF representation
>>> of the entity (if one exists) rather than a string literal.  For
>>> example, can I use:
>>> <dwc:recordedBy
>>> rdf:resource="http://people.vanderbilt.edu/~steve.baskauf/foaf.rdf#me"/>
>>> rather than
>>> <dwc:recordedBy>Steven J. Baskauf</dwc:recordedBy>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Steve Baskauf
>>> --
>>>
>>> Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D., Senior Lecturer
>>> Vanderbilt University Dept. of Biological Sciences
>>>
>>> postal mail address:
>>> VU Station B 351634
>>> Nashville, TN  37235-1634,  U.S.A.
>>>
>>> delivery address:
>>> 2125 Stevenson Center
>>> 1161 21st Ave., S.
>>> Nashville, TN 37235
>>>
>>> office: 2128 Stevenson Center
>>> phone: (615) 343-4582,  fax: (615) 343-6707
>>> http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
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