Index Fungorum LSID Authority

Thu Mar 9 09:56:14 CET 2006

Hi Kevin

I think there are a few initial stabs at RDF versions of TCS out there,
in addition to Roger's, Donald has been working on a simple one for some
of TCS and Rob Gales has also been working on one. As part of the work
being done on TCS we will issue one, so will look at the different
versions and then publish one but as we're only working on prototypes
for the time being you could use any. If Roger publishes the one he's
working on next week I'd use that and then we'll announce any updates
through the lists.

Jessie

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From: Taxonomic Databases Working Group GUID Project
[mailto:TDWG-GUID at LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU] On Behalf Of Roger Hyam
Sent: 09 March 2006 09:43
To: TDWG-GUID at LISTSERV.NHM.KU.EDU
Subject: Re: Index Fungorum LSID Authority

Hi Kevin,

I am working on an RDF version of TCS TaxonNames but not showing it to
anyone just yet! I'll let you know when I have something worth talking
about - next week some time I suspect. I hope this will be a kick off
point for talking about it in the TCS community so it won't be stable
but I hope it will be something for demonstration purposes.

We could consider using the accepted_formats parameter of getMetadata to
offer a two flavours of metadata in the mean time. (Possible RDF by
default and 'xmlSchema' for the XML Schema based form.) If we did this
we would still need to have conventions in place such as whether to
always include the schema location in the XML or not.

Great to know you have got it working.

Roger

Kevin Richards wrote: 

I have finished setting up an LSID authority for Index Fungorum names.
For more details about this task, see the wiki at
http://wiki.gbif.org/guidwiki/wikka.php?wakka=LSIDResolverForTaxonNamesI
F

An example lsid is urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:Names:213645. More LSIDs
can be found by searching the indexfungorum names on the IF web site
http://www.indexfungorum.org
<http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/IndexFungorumLSIDs.htm> .

The authority currently serves up exactly the same basic xml that is
served by the IF web service (see
http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/IndexFungorumLSIDs.htm).  The same
xml is returned for both the metadata and the data at this stage - the
LSID data will change later to something that we decide is the
"unchangeable set of bytes" for a particular taxon name.

As the return format is not RDF, this means that the metadata and data
returned is not viewable by using IE Launchpad.  However if you use
launchpad it saves the metadata to the cache directory and you can view
this file.  The plugin for Firefox seems a little more verbose and
allows you to save the data and metadata to a location of your choice
when downloading the LSID info.  Go to 

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130827 for Firefox
plugin.

The next step will be to return a more usefule format - RDF based on the
TCS schema seems to be the desired option. I'm not sure how to approach
this if anyone has any suggestions (ie the RDF version of TCS)? As it
is a prototype, I could add "dummy" RDF predicates for the TCS elements
required for an IF name, eg
"http://www.tdwg.org/schemas/tcs/1.01/ScientificName/Simple
<http://www.tdwg.org/schemas/tcs/1.01/ScientificName/Simple> ", or
create real temprary ones such as
"urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:predicates:123" specifically for IF. Anyone
with more RDF experience have any suggestions?

Kevin Richards

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I think there are a few initial stabs at
RDF versions of TCS out there, in addition to Roger&#8217;s, Donald has been
working on a simple one for some of TCS and Rob Gales has also been working on
one. As part of the work being done on TCS we will issue one, so will look at
the different versions and then publish one but as we&#8217;re only working on
prototypes for the time being you could use any. If Roger publishes the one he&#8217;s
working on next week I&#8217;d use that and then we&#8217;ll announce any
updates through the lists.<o:p></o:p>

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Hi Kevin, 
 
I am working on an RDF version of TCS TaxonNames but not showing it to anyone
just yet! I'll let you know when I have something worth talking about - next
week some time I suspect. I hope this will be a kick off point for talking
about it in the TCS community so it won't be stable but I hope it will be
something for demonstration purposes. 
 
We could consider using the accepted_formats parameter of getMetadata to offer
a two flavours of metadata in the mean time. (Possible RDF by default and
'xmlSchema' for the XML Schema based form.) If we did this we would still need
to have conventions in place such as whether to always include the schema
location in the XML or not. 
 
Great to know you have got it working. 
 
Roger 
 
 
 
Kevin Richards wrote: <o:p></o:p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>I have finished setting up an LSID authority for Index
Fungorum names.&nbsp; For more details about this task, see the wiki at <a
href="http://wiki.gbif.org/guidwiki/wikka.php?wakka=LSIDResolverForTaxonNamesIF">http://wiki.gbif.org/guidwiki/wikka.php?wakka=LSIDResolverForTaxonNamesIF</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>An example lsid is
urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:Names:213645.&nbsp; More LSIDs can be found by searching
the indexfungorum names on the IF web site <a
href="http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/IndexFungorumLSIDs.htm">http://www.indexfungorum.org</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The authority currently serves up exactly the same
basic xml that is served by the IF web service (see <a
href="http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/IndexFungorumLSIDs.htm">http://www.indexfungorum.org/Names/IndexFungorumLSIDs.htm</a>).&nbsp;
The same xml is returned for both the metadata and the data at this stage - the
LSID&nbsp;data will change later to something that we decide is the
&quot;unchangeable set of bytes&quot; for a particular taxon name.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

</div>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>As the return format is not RDF, this means that the
metadata and data returned is not viewable by using IE Launchpad.&nbsp; However
if you use launchpad it saves the metadata to the cache directory and you can
view this file.&nbsp; The plugin for Firefox seems a little more verbose and
allows you to save the data and metadata to a location of your choice when
downloading the LSID info.&nbsp; Go to <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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href="http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130827">http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=130827</a>&nbsp;for
Firefox plugin.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>The next step will be to return a more usefule format
- RDF based on the TCS schema seems to be the desired option.&nbsp; I'm not
sure how to approach this if anyone has any suggestions (ie the RDF version of
TCS)?&nbsp; As it is a prototype, I could add &quot;dummy&quot; RDF predicates
for the TCS elements required for an IF name, eg <a
href="http://www.tdwg.org/schemas/tcs/1.01/ScientificName/Simple">&quot;http://www.tdwg.org/schemas/tcs/1.01/ScientificName/Simple</a>&quot;,
or create real temprary ones such as
&quot;urn:lsid:indexfungorum.org:predicates:123&quot; specifically for
IF.&nbsp; Anyone with more RDF experience have any suggestions?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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