LSID Software Gap Analysis
Kevin Richards
RichardsK at LANDCARERESEARCH.CO.NZ
Wed Apr 5 10:05:11 CEST 2006
Yes I aggree with that Ricardo - "gap" analysis was not the best choice
of words.
I didnt really have problems using RDF with the Java LSID stack as the
download came with examples of how to use RDF. The biggest problem here
is trying to work out how to correctly create an RDF document from the
index fungorum database I am connecting to (so really more of a training
issue).
The next problem was when trying to create RDF documents within
Microsoft .NET development projects (this was also during setup of to
the IndexFungorum LSID resolver). There is limited code available for
facilitating the creation of RDF documents for the Microsoft platform
(not a huge issue, as I could just use java code to create them, but
this has platform dependent issues later on).
My thoughts really were to make sure that code and tools are available
to help everyone create RDF documents from their datasets, ensuring the
adoption of the RDF techonology is as easy as possible, and has no
obvious barriers. As Ben pointed out there are quite a lot of tools,
and Java code, for working with RDF, but I think it would be useful if
everyone thought about how they would get their data from the database
to an RDF document to make sure there are no missing components to aid
this process.
Kevin
>>> ricardo at TDWG.ORG 5/04/2006 9:42 a.m. >>>
Kevin,
That is an excellent point, thanks for bringing it up!!
Yes, I believe we should include RDF into the analysis. We just
need
to be careful about the wording, I guess.
We clearly don't want to perform a gap analysis of all the
existing
RDF software. That would be too big of a task for the GUID group.
In my opinion, we should evaluate:
1) How well the current LSID server software supports the generation
of
metadata responses in RDF; and
2) What capabilities the LSID client provides for ingestion of RDF.
Besides that, we can also try to compile a list of RDF toolkits
and
try to get evaluations of them, without performing a complete gap
analysis. Some people was asking for links about RDF tools on the
TDWG-TAG mailing list and on the GUID list as well. Take a look:
http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-tag_lists.tdwg.org/2006-March/000063.html
http://listserv.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0602&L=TDWG-GUID&P=R6382
http://listserv.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0602&L=TDWG-GUID&P=R6104
So when you mention that it has been difficult to generate RDF,
are
you talking about the Java toolkit that you used to set up Index
Fungorum LSID resolver or are you refering to the port of the client
and
server stacks to .NET?
Cheers,
Ricardo
Kevin Richards wrote:
> Ricardo
>
> Do you think this analysis should include a gap analysis of RDF
> software as well , or would it be best to keep this separate?
> I think this is probably a more contentious issue - ie some doubts
> about RDF over XML. I have found setting up an LSID
> resolver/authority reasonably straight forward but trying to
implement
> the services using RDF has been a steep learning curve (and limited
> software/tools to help).
> I'll add more later.
>
> Kevin
>
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<DIV>Yes I aggree with that Ricardo - "gap" analysis was not the best =
choice of words.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I didnt really have problems using RDF with the Java LSID stack as =
the download came with examples of how to use RDF. The biggest =
problem here is trying to work out how to correctly create an RDF document =
from the index fungorum database I am connecting to (so really more of a =
training issue).</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The next problem was when trying to create RDF documents within =
Microsoft .NET development projects (this was also during setup of to the =
IndexFungorum LSID resolver). There is limited code available =
for facilitating the creation of RDF documents for the Microsoft platform =
(not a huge issue, as I could just use java code to create them, but this =
has platform dependent issues later on).<BR></DIV>
<DIV>My thoughts really were to make sure that code and tools are =
available to help everyone create RDF documents from their datasets, =
ensuring the adoption of the RDF techonology is as easy as possible, and =
has no obvious barriers. As Ben pointed out there are quite a =
lot of tools, and Java code, for working with RDF, but I think it would be =
useful if everyone thought about how they would get their data from the =
database to an RDF document to make sure there are no missing components =
to aid this process.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Kevin</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR>>>> ricardo at TDWG.ORG 5/04/2006 9:42 a.m. >>><BR>=
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"COLOR: #000000"> Kevin,<BR><BR> =
That is an excellent point, thanks for bringing it up!!<BR><BR> =
; Yes, I believe we should include RDF into the analysis. We =
just need<BR>to be careful about the wording, I guess.<BR><BR> &=
nbsp; We clearly don't want to perform a gap analysis of all the existing<B=
R>RDF software. That would be too big of a task for the GUID group.<BR><BR>=
In my opinion, we should evaluate:<BR>1) How well the =
current LSID server software supports the generation of<BR>metadata =
responses in RDF; and<BR>2) What capabilities the LSID client provides for =
ingestion of RDF.<BR><BR> Besides that, we can also try =
to compile a list of RDF toolkits and<BR>try to get evaluations of them, =
without performing a complete gap<BR>analysis. Some people was asking for =
links about RDF tools on the<BR>TDWG-TAG mailing list and on the GUID list =
as well. Take a look:<BR><BR><A href=3D"http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdw=
g-tag_lists.tdwg.org/2006-March/000063.html">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermai=
l/tdwg-tag_lists.tdwg.org/2006-March/000063.html</A><BR><A href=3D"http://l=
istserv.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=3Dind0602&L=3DTDWG-GUID&P=3DR6=
382">http://listserv.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=3Dind0602&L=3DTDWG-GU=
ID&P=3DR6382</A><BR><A href=3D"http://listserv.nhm.ku.edu/cgi-bin/wa.ex=
e?A2=3Dind0602&L=3DTDWG-GUID&P=3DR6104">http://listserv.nhm.ku.edu/=
cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=3Dind0602&L=3DTDWG-GUID&P=3DR6104</A><BR><BR>&nbs=
p; So when you mention that it has been difficult to generate =
RDF, are<BR>you talking about the Java toolkit that you used to set up =
Index<BR>Fungorum LSID resolver or are you refering to the port of the =
client and<BR>server stacks to .NET?<BR><BR> Cheers,<BR><=
BR>Ricardo<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Kevin Richards wrote:<BR><BR>> Ricardo<BR>=
><BR>> Do you think this analysis should include a gap analysis of =
RDF<BR>> software as well , or would it be best to keep this separate?<B=
R>> I think this is probably a more contentious issue - ie some =
doubts<BR>> about RDF over XML. I have found setting up an =
LSID<BR>> resolver/authority reasonably straight forward but trying to =
implement<BR>> the services using RDF has been a steep learning curve =
(and limited<BR>> software/tools to help).<BR>> I'll add more =
later.<BR>><BR>> Kevin<BR>><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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