<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all,</div><div>in preparation for the meeting a few considerations from my side:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Most <a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/blob/working-draft/use-cases/Use%20cases%20for%20MIDS.md" target="_blank">use cases</a> with functional requirements we have for MIDS so far are centered around assessment of digitisation status. However the name of the standard implicitly refers to using the standard as the basis of a DS (Digital Extended Specimen). In the global ES/DS consultation this was further sketched as either the authoritative section (a-section), metadata section, or both. I think we need to state this more explicitly as a use case, as this may also need inclusion of data related to access of the MIDS data (legal restrictions or open access).</div><div>2. I think we miss another important use case which is using MIDS to aid further digitisation. I am thinking about specimen data refinery services (SDR). What could help SDR is information about the appearance of the object (what can be expected to be in an image), like Dried assemblage | Dried - not assembled | Fluid preserved | Microscope slides | Cryopreserved/frozen - 80C | etc. See also the materiaType issue <a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/14" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/14</a>. and also information about what information can be expected to be extracted. This could be a discipline like used in Synth+, for instance PreservedBotany, PreservedMicroorganisms, see also CD: basisOfCollection. Or, alternative could be collectionType from NCD:</div>Archival | Art | Audio | Cell Cultures | Electronic | Facsimiles | Fossils | Genetic | Geological | Herbarium | Living | Manuscripts | Mineralogical | Observations | Preserved | Products | Specimens | Texts | Tissue | Visual<br>from the point of view of what to expect as data this may be better in that it has for instance a separate category for facsimiles. But In terms of a dashboard, disciplines may be a better choice. collectionType is difficult to describe unambigously.<div>3. MaterialType is currently not clear, see also the github issue. Material type would in my mind be something like: wood, gold, metal, leaves, skin, similar to <a href="http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Entity/e57-material/version-6.2" target="_blank">http://www.cidoc-crm.org/Entity/e57-material/version-6.2</a> and that is not what we need. Neither something like 80% alcohol (preservation).</div><div>4. Name, currently described as: The name the specimen is stored under, not it's identification according to an accepted scientific classification (although these can be the same). To avoid confusion I would relabel that to: storedUnderName</div><div>5. Institution: should be described as the institution having custody of the object. Do we also need to describe the owner of the object in MIDS (if different)? And what if an individual has custody of the object rather than an institution (private collection)?</div><div>6. We only include an image/media as i or m, should we not include more metadata in that case, like identifier/ url, license?<br><div><br></div><div>Kind regards,</div><div>Wouter</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 3 Mar 2021 at 09:42, Alex Hardisty <<a href="mailto:HardistyAR@cardiff.ac.uk" target="_blank">HardistyAR@cardiff.ac.uk</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear colleagues,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The fourth meeting of TDWG TG MIDS will take place on Thursday 4th March 2021 UTC 14:30-16:00. The agenda and other details are below. Elspeth and I look forward to your contributions. If there are other items for the agenda, please inform
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>Zoom details<u></u><u></u></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The meeting will take place by Zoom and will be started/hosted by co-convenor Alex Hardisty.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Meeting URL: <a href="https://cardiff.zoom.us/j/81730361925?pwd=Z2J0T1U2VWxXSVM5TGUyblIyWFdJQT09" target="_blank">
https://cardiff.zoom.us/j/81730361925?pwd=Z2J0T1U2VWxXSVM5TGUyblIyWFdJQT09</a> <u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Meeting ID: 817 3036 1925<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Password: 926998<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u>Agenda<u></u><u></u></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">A googledoc for notes is here: <a href="http://bit.ly/tgmids-notes" target="_blank">
http://bit.ly/tgmids-notes</a>. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><span>1)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Introduction<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0cm">Reminder of the work:<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72pt">At the least meeting we dropped RecordCreator and CreatedOn terms. Retained Modified. Discussion on Name as an indicator of what a thing is. Today we need a decision on that. materialType needs a more atomized
vocabulary but also noted this is running into weaknesses in existing vocabularies like DwC.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0cm">Short report from CETAF Digitization working group, 1<sup>st</sup> March 2021<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<p style="margin-left:72pt">Info elements related to geography – which are most important?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><span>2)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Decision needed<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0cm">Name (<a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/12" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/12</a>) – pending decision carried over from previous meeting.<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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<u></u><span><span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span>i.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><u></u>Slight preference from those present to use the label ‘Name’. An alternative label, preferred by a few is ‘Title’.<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>ii.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><u></u>Definition of the term is general, “A name given to the specimen”. Equivalent to dc:title: “A name given to the resource” (<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title" target="_blank">http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/title</a></span>)
and to Schema.org ‘name’: “The name of the item”. (<a href="https://schema.org/name" target="_blank">https://schema.org/name</a>).<u></u><u></u></p>
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</span>iii.<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman""> </span></span><u></u>Map it to dwc:scientificName (<span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"><a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/scientificName" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/scientificName</a></span>),
and abcd:fullScientificName (and adapted discipline-specific terms). <u></u><u></u></p>
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<u></u><span>3)<span style="font:7pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span><u></u>Discussion needed (as time permits)<u></u><u></u></p>
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<li style="margin-left:0cm">MaterialType (<a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/14" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/14</a>)<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0cm">Mass (<a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/4" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/4</a>) – proposal for an additional/new information element necessary for certain geological
specimen categories<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0cm">PhysicalSpecimenId (<a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/10" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/10</a>)<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0cm">Institution (<a href="https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/11" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/mids/issues/11</a>)<u></u><u></u></li><li style="margin-left:0cm">Geography related<u></u><u></u></li></ol>
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</span></span><u></u>Any other business<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Kind regards<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>--<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Alex<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10pt">Alex Hardisty
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