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<b>Sent:</b> 20 October 2023 12:07<br>
<b>To:</b> Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org>; Yi Ming Gan <ymgan@naturalsciences.be><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Wesley M. Hochachka <wmh6@cornell.edu>; Kate Ingenloff <kingenloff@gbif.org>; Robert Guralnick <robgur@gmail.com><br>
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<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-size:small; color:#000000">I've only had a chance to take a quick look at the responses provided by Peggy and the ALA team, but thus far the feedback seems great! It's really good to have these very clear and precise
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<div class="x_gmail_default" style="font-size:small; color:#000000">I will start going through this in greater detail and add to the GH. I will link the relevant GH issue to each issue in the document so the progress is obvious (and can be corrected if others
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Sounds reasonable, and we can / should treat ALA and iDIV feedback as public review issues (now with new DL). It would probably help Steve and others if the ALA report is indeed sliced into GH issues that can be handled one by one.
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<span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif; text-decoration:none">@Kate Ingenloff</span></a> – unless someone else volunteers, could you perhaps take care of this? This would not only improve issue management, but also archive suggestions and concerns in the
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I am back to office on Tuesday and hope to meet with Kate soon after to see how we can further help the process.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I had very rich discussion at TDWG and GBIF days here in Australia, and it is important that any potential incompatibilities with ALA are resolved, as ALA is one of our best chances to champion Humboldt here down under, and same for iDIV
in continental Europe. It actually sounds like we might be able to process both reports and maybe complete the examples in November… Also GBIF work programme 2024 is just approved, giving us green light on focusing on ecology data streams = Humboldt, and ratification
is an enabling factor GBIF to coordinate the rollout.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">As promised, I will also speak to Joe about the guide-finishing contract and possible budget for that in a bout week from now.<u></u><u></u></p>
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is supportive of the guide + paper approach, we should coordinate how completion of the guide (hopefully c/o GBIFS) and Humboldt paper 2.0 (which I understood you agreed to lead-write) work together (overlaps, lengths, links, timelines etc).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">The list of target conferences to market the extension (+guide, + paper) is also becoming clearer for 2024 and 2025.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Wieczorek<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 19 October, 2023 00:31<br>
<b>To:</b> Humboldt Core TG <<a href="mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org</a>>; Wesley M. Hochachka <<a href="mailto:wmh6@cornell.edu" target="_blank">wmh6@cornell.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-humboldt] ALA data team feedback<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">In our meeting today we discussed that the time requirement for the public comment to Humboldt has now been met without any outstanding issues, but we did not have any time to review the document shared here. Independent of that document
we agreed that we would keep the public review open at least until Ani has had a chance to corral her iDiv audience and discuss the extension live and in person.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">We also discussed the remaining promised Task Group task of mapping additional data sets to get to the total of seven. As that was a proposed output of the Task Group, it doesn't affect the term ratification process, and is open to justification
to the Executive committee if not all seven are actually delivered. If we can though, great, and the timeline for doing so only really affects the disbanding of the Task Group. Since we will wait at least two weeks for the iDiv feedback and we need to assess
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">So the big task for next week is to discuss the ALA report, and even before then, if possible, get any clear issue into the Humboldt Extension issue tracker (<a href="https://github.com/tdwg/hc/issues" originalsrc="https://github.com/tdwg/hc/issues" shash="jd7pBpcUKqGOz08ZXDcqdub15HWH/xsxfUWYikbEYy7YWD4qDAmSylDzsknEDppvq5zsTq9xEUk+iDd3KbsvdIiJwtP7HnkMOhhYQ2vzJ72TgG+iTgxv8bz4qC2sXvA9K/bqEpT1io5Zy5bYzYW/l8QxIrIVtfZ1XhF9O1MLc9U=" target="_blank">https://github.com/tdwg/hc/issues</a>).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thank you so much for the detailed revision and for sharing your feedback with us. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">This is very useful for us particularly because the issues you found are clearly described and justified, I really appreciate this.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">We have a meeting today (which unfortunately I cannot assist) but I would ask the group to start revising your feedback. <u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">I uploaded the <a href="https://docs.google.com/file/d/1OxJ_H5vBd9pucjdgQDa6qMaQKl4O89gf/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword" originalsrc="https://docs.google.com/file/d/1OxJ_H5vBd9pucjdgQDa6qMaQKl4O89gf/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=msword" shash="biTvUA9o9Ur5FBo1lXIzc5KoIWn20gd+Xbj6v43NOADkMeXSmI5nlPbvsVg74+tlAnYRHu75eKou0Offj246KrqdrVaBmKXv5scCSYIVMv9RxcyHjGtsDyAsThPy25ymPDXPZ3K/0u19i8Su/hHRWzgygqIiBlEXHnOs5na1beY=" target="_blank">
document</a> to our shared Drive so we can start adding our comments in response to your findings.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">After internally discussing your feedback, I will reach out to you and invite you to join our meetings so we can find a solution.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal">Thank you again and I am glad you find the Humbold a useful addition!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> tdwg-humboldt <<a href="mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org</a>> on behalf of Newman, Peggy (NCMI, Clayton)
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 18, 2023 6:42:28 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org</a> <<a href="mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org</a>><br>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU">Greetings Team Humboldt!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">It was sure nice to catch up with some of you over the past weeks.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">I have a document that we’ve put together with our suggestions for the extension. Our team had two discussions about it, and Doug wrote up our conclusions in a 2 pager word doc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU">So I’ve tried to attach them here, but don’t know how the listserv will cope with a document. Let’s see.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p><span lang="EN-AU">In any case, how is best to proceed from here? Let us know if you’d like to talk in person I guess.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p><span lang="EN-AU">Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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