<div dir="ltr">Dear Yani<div><br></div><div>Wesley did a great job reorganizing the abstract but I believe you are the primary mover and organizer and therefore should be first author.  I suggest that John be added as a co-author. His participation and insights have helped significantly.  </div><div><br></div><div>Thanks Yani, Steve and others for steering us towards completion.</div><div><br></div><div>Rob</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jun 30, 2023 at 6:18 AM ys628 <<a href="mailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu">yanina.sica@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg3816050035839540349">




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I would like to ask you to take a look at the abstract one more time. Wesley did a major rearranging (OPTION 2, some description below). I want to make sure everybody agrees...also in regarding the authors.</div>
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Instructions! <a href="https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/" target="_blank">https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2023/instructions-for-abstract-submission/</a> Title: Want to describe share biodiversity inventory and monitoring data? The Humboldt Extension for Ecological Inventories can help! Please complete your name and affiliation
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I will submit later today or even tomorrow morning (July 1st) to give you more time to review</div>
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   If this message looks like something that is relevant for the entire group, could you please forward it to the Humboldt Extension listserv? I'm writing to both of you because Yani you should be aware of what I've done sooner rather than later, and Ming because
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   Somehow, I ended up experimenting with a major reorganization of the material in the existing abstract, while (hopefully) not deleting any information, and adding little new information (the exception being the fourth and fifth sentences).  I have pasted
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 were moved, or where I made additions, because I made a local copy of the original and then copied the end result back...and all of the change-tracking colour information disappeared.</div>
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   Anyway, as I wrote at the end of my comment, you absolutely should treat what I did as an experiment in creating a new order of presentation of the ideas in the original version, and use the new organization, or not, to the extent that you see fit.</div>
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   Oh, and regarding English versus U.S. spelling, I'm definitely the worst person to ask, because the spelling all looks Canadian (i.e. a British-U.S. hybrid) to me.<br>
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Wesley Hochachka<br>
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