<div dir="auto">Hi all,</div><div dir="auto">Just chiming in to alert you that Steve’s emails ver) often (if not always) end in my spam folder.</div><div dir="auto">Steve, you may need to do something on your side. See screenshot.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div><img src="cid:18900c66c3fe4e019f71" style="max-width: 100%;"></div></div><div dir="auto">Note that the issue with the sender doesn’t seem to be an issue with the Humboldt Core mailing list. Most other HC emails regularly go to my inbox.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards,</div><div dir="auto">Carlos</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue 27. Jun 2023 at 22:33, Baskauf, Steven James <<a href="mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu">steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">My feeling is that if we can finish the parent/child document we’ve been working on, we should be ready to submit. There is clearly more that could be done, but I think this is enough to establish the vocabulary
and the basic event extension as a standard.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">The material sample proposal is ahead of us in the queue, but it doesn’t look like that is going to have too much controversy, so my guess is that when it’s first 30 days expires, it will be done. If eco can
be submitted soon, I would say we could start on public comment as soon as material sample is done. Optimally that would be ahead of the Latimer Core public comment, but that’s already been pushed off to at least July 15 to ask approval of the Exec, and possibly
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">So yes, I think it’s reasonable to try to get it done before Hobart. In which case a presentation would be a “victory lap” rather than a “we are in the late stages” talk (which we already did last year).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D. he/him/his<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 3:16 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a>tuco@berkeley.edu</a> <<a>tuco@berkeley.edu</a>>, Humboldt Core TG <<a>tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Hi John and all, <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I, too, asked this question a few dozens of calls ago, and somehow got the impression of “no way it is happening before Hobart” – then I enterer a period of lower involvement with HC, and most of you, on the
contrary, did a lot – so if ratification is possible in 2023, even if tight, this is a very good news for GBIF from all possible directions– the data model work that you John know from inside, the subsequent and long overdue engagement with holders of ecology
data, for the twins project etc etc.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">By Hobart ’23 sound much better than by Okinawa ’24. In GBIF, Kate Ingenloff planned back to work day (after maternity leave) is 24th July. We will then discuss the immediate what-nows, and supporting speedy
ratification is something we can consider, among other things – but I need to wait for Kate to come back first.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Personally, I am quite unfamiliar with formal side of TDWG ratifications (apart from marginal involvement in GGBN standard around 2013). Steve, was it you who explained to me that formalize-and-fix-later does
not really work with TDWG routines, so HC should be fairly ready to enter the ratification process to avoid painful post-ratification corrections?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">This is a very good question, John, and I agree it affects what’s in the abstract. TDWG have had many “we just do it, one day it is done”s, which is natural for the volunteer work, but maybe HC can go legit
sooner.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I have a minor clash of Zooms tomorrow, but this is getting so exciting, I will do my best to join.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">BR,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Dmitry<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Wieczorek<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 27 June, 2023 20:50<br>
<b>To:</b> Humboldt Core TG <<a>tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">This message thread makes me wonder about a more general question. Is there a general consensus about more or less when the Extension will be submitted for public review? My feeling is that it is fairly close.
If so, the entire process and ratification might be completed before the TDWG Meeting. The unknown status around that time presents a challenge for an abstract. Any ideas about strategy?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Thanks for reminding us the deadline for TDWG 2023. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend this year. I am not even sure I will be able to attend online because it overlaps completely with another conference
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 27, 2023 3:10:58 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023</span> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p>HI Yani and all,<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p>We had a quick who-is-submitting what exchange at GBIF S staff meeting and we realize that we don’t know if someone will present – remotely or in person – the HC work done so far. Was it discussed a few calls ago? From GBIF S, there will be Matt, Tobias
and me in-person, maybe Joe in Hobart. Tobias and me will be focusing on the DNA derived data and possibly digital twins.<br>
DL is Saturday, and maybe a short talk-securing abstract can be stitched from the existing paragraphs?<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>In standards work, it’s tricky to know what, how, where, when, and how much to present, but I am growing to like early exposure of the work in progress.<u></u><u></u></p>
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