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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi John and all, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I, too, asked this question a few dozens of calls ago, and somehow got the impression of “no way it is happening before Hobart” – then I enterer a period of lower involvement with HC, and most of you, on the contrary, did a lot – so if
ratification is possible in 2023, even if tight, this is a very good news for GBIF from all possible directions– the data model work that you John know from inside, the subsequent and long overdue engagement with holders of ecology data, for the twins project
etc etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">By Hobart ’23 sound much better than by Okinawa ’24. In GBIF, Kate Ingenloff planned back to work day (after maternity leave) is 24th July. We will then discuss the immediate what-nows, and supporting speedy ratification is something we
can consider, among other things – but I need to wait for Kate to come back first.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally, I am quite unfamiliar with formal side of TDWG ratifications (apart from marginal involvement in GGBN standard around 2013). Steve, was it you who explained to me that formalize-and-fix-later does not really work with TDWG routines,
so HC should be fairly ready to enter the ratification process to avoid painful post-ratification corrections?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This is a very good question, John, and I agree it affects what’s in the abstract. TDWG have had many “we just do it, one day it is done”s, which is natural for the volunteer work, but maybe HC can go legit sooner.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I have a minor clash of Zooms tomorrow, but this is getting so exciting, I will do my best to join.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">BR,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dmitry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>John Wieczorek<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, 27 June, 2023 20:50<br>
<b>To:</b> Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">This message thread makes me wonder about a more general question. Is there a general consensus about more or less when the Extension will be submitted for public review? My feeling is that it is fairly close. If so, the entire process
and ratification might be completed before the TDWG Meeting. The unknown status around that time presents a challenge for an abstract. Any ideas about strategy?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 3:23 PM ys628 <<a href="mailto:yanina.sica@yale.edu">yanina.sica@yale.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dmitry and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for reminding us the deadline for TDWG 2023. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend this year. I am not even sure I will be able to attend online because it overlaps completely with another conference I am attending. However,
I think we should definitely present something and share the progress of our task group! <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sevel people from the group will be attending TDWG so let’s discuss tomorrow if someone would like to present. I am more than happy to help with the abstract (as you pointed out we could reuse a lot of material).<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Tomorrow we will also discuss the ‘reloaded’ hierarchical document!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See you soon!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yani<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> tdwg-humboldt <</span><a href="mailto:tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-humboldt-bounces@lists.tdwg.org</a><span style="color:black">> on behalf
of Dmitry Schigel <</span><a href="mailto:dschigel@gbif.org" target="_blank">dschigel@gbif.org</a><span style="color:black">><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, June 27, 2023 3:10:58 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Humboldt Core TG <</span><a href="mailto:tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-humboldt@lists.tdwg.org</a><span style="color:black">><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023</span> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>HI Yani and all,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>We had a quick who-is-submitting what exchange at GBIF S staff meeting and we realize that we don’t know if someone will present – remotely or in person – the HC work done so far. Was it discussed a few calls ago? From GBIF S, there will be Matt, Tobias
and me in-person, maybe Joe in Hobart. Tobias and me will be focusing on the DNA derived data and possibly digital twins.<br>
DL is Saturday, and maybe a short talk-securing abstract can be stitched from the existing paragraphs?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>In standards work, it’s tricky to know what, how, where, when, and how much to present, but I am growing to like early exposure of the work in progress.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p>BR<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Dmitry<o:p></o:p></p>
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