[tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023

Wed Jun 28 10:54:01 UTC 2023

Hi all,

Just letting you know that I am out of town on vacation so I won't be able
to attend our meetings for the next two weeks.

Thanks,
Zach

On Wed, Jun 28, 2023, 1:55 AM Myriatrix Admin <archilegt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
> Just chiming in to alert you that Steve’s emails ver) often (if not
> always) end in my spam folder.
> Steve, you may need to do something on your side. See screenshot.
>
> Note that the issue with the sender doesn’t seem to be an issue with the
> Humboldt Core mailing list. Most other HC emails regularly go to my inbox.
>
> Regards,
> Carlos
>
> On Tue 27. Jun 2023 at 22:33, Baskauf, Steven James <
> steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
>
>> My feeling is that if we can finish the parent/child document we’ve been
>> working on, we should be ready to submit. There is clearly more that could
>> be done, but I think this is enough to establish the vocabulary and the
>> basic event extension as a standard.
>>
>>
>>
>> The material sample proposal is ahead of us in the queue, but it doesn’t
>> look like that is going to have too much controversy, so my guess is that
>> when it’s first 30 days expires, it will be done. If eco can be submitted
>> soon, I would say we could start on public comment as soon as material
>> sample is done. Optimally that would be ahead of the Latimer Core public
>> comment, but that’s already been pushed off to at least July 15 to ask
>> approval of the Exec, and possibly later than that.
>>
>>
>>
>> So yes, I think it’s reasonable to try to get it done before Hobart. In
>> which case a presentation would be a “victory lap” rather than a “we are in
>> the late stages” talk (which we already did last year).
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D.  he/him/his
>>
>> Data Science and Data Curation Specialist / Librarian III
>>
>> Jean & Alexander Heard Libraries, Vanderbilt University
>>
>> Nashville, TN 37235, USA
>>
>>
>>
>> Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) Executive Committee/Technical
>> Architecture Group Chair
>>
>> https://baskauf.github.io/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on behalf
>> of Dmitry Schigel <dschigel at gbif.org>
>> *Date: *Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 3:16 PM
>> *To: *tuco at berkeley.edu <tuco at berkeley.edu>, Humboldt Core TG <
>> tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023
>>
>> Hi John and all,
>>
>>
>>
>> I, too, asked this question a few dozens of calls ago, and somehow got
>> the impression of “no way it is happening before Hobart” – then I enterer a
>> period of lower involvement with HC, and most of you, on the contrary, did
>> a lot – so if ratification is possible in 2023, even if tight, this is a
>> very good news for GBIF from all possible directions– the data model work
>> that you John know from inside, the subsequent and long overdue engagement
>> with holders of ecology data, for the twins project etc etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> By Hobart ’23 sound much better than by Okinawa ’24. In GBIF, Kate
>> Ingenloff planned back to work day (after maternity leave) is 24th July. We
>> will then discuss the immediate what-nows, and supporting speedy
>> ratification is something we can consider, among other things – but I need
>> to wait for Kate to come back first.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally, I am quite unfamiliar with formal side of TDWG ratifications
>> (apart from marginal involvement in GGBN standard around 2013). Steve, was
>> it you who explained to me that formalize-and-fix-later does not really
>> work with TDWG routines, so HC should be fairly ready to enter the
>> ratification process to avoid painful post-ratification corrections?
>>
>>
>>
>> This is a very good question, John, and I agree it affects what’s in the
>> abstract. TDWG have had many “we just do it, one day it is done”s, which is
>> natural for the volunteer work, but maybe HC can go legit sooner.
>>
>> I have a minor clash of Zooms tomorrow, but this is getting so exciting,
>> I will do my best to join.
>>
>>
>>
>> BR,
>>
>> Dmitry
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> *On Behalf
>> Of *John Wieczorek
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 June, 2023 20:50
>> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
>> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi group,
>>
>>
>>
>> This message thread makes me wonder about a more general question. Is
>> there a general consensus about more or less when the Extension will be
>> submitted for public review? My feeling is that it is fairly close. If so,
>> the entire process and ratification might be completed before the TDWG
>> Meeting. The unknown status around that time presents a challenge for an
>> abstract. Any ideas about strategy?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 3:23 PM ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dmitry and all,
>>
>> Thanks for reminding us the deadline for TDWG 2023. Unfortunately, I will
>> not be able to attend this year. I am not even sure I will be able to
>> attend online because it overlaps completely with another conference I am
>> attending. However, I think we should definitely present something and
>> share the progress of our task group!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sevel people from the group will be attending TDWG so let’s discuss
>> tomorrow if someone would like to present. I am more than happy to help
>> with the abstract (as you pointed out we could reuse a lot of material).
>>
>>
>>
>> Tomorrow we will also discuss the ‘reloaded’ hierarchical document!
>>
>>
>>
>> See you soon!
>>
>> Yani
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
>>
>> Lead Data Team
>>
>> Map of Life | Center for Biodiversity and Global Change
>>
>> Yale University
>>
>> pronouns: she/her/hers
>>
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>>
>> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on behalf
>> of Dmitry Schigel <dschigel at gbif.org>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 27, 2023 3:10:58 PM
>> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
>> *Subject:* [tdwg-humboldt] TDWG 2023
>>
>>
>>
>> HI Yani and all,
>>
>>
>>
>> We had a quick who-is-submitting what exchange at GBIF S staff meeting
>> and we realize that we don’t know if someone will present – remotely or in
>> person – the HC work done so far. Was it discussed a few calls ago? From
>> GBIF S, there will be Matt, Tobias and me in-person, maybe Joe in Hobart.
>> Tobias and me will be focusing on the DNA derived data and possibly digital
>> twins.
>> DL is Saturday, and maybe a short talk-securing abstract can be stitched
>> from the existing paragraphs?
>>
>> In standards work, it’s tricky to know what, how, where, when, and how
>> much to present, but I am growing to like early exposure of the work in
>> progress.
>>
>>
>>
>> BR
>>
>> Dmitry
>>
>>
>>
>>
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