[tdwg-humboldt] meeting this week

Anahita Kazem Anahita.Kazem at idiv.de
Wed Jul 12 11:31:10 UTC 2023


Dear all,

I managed to double-book myself, and won't be able to make the meeting 
today. Apologies!

Ani


On 12/07/2023 10:44, Yi Ming Gan wrote:
> Thank you Rob and hi all!! I won’t be able to make it again for the 
> meeting today as I need to rush some works, but I made the 
> event-parentEvent figure as promised.
>
> Cheers
> Ming
>
>> On 12 Jul 2023, at 09:45, ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Thank you so much Rob!
>>
>> I am still unsure if I will be able to join this week's meeting (I am 
>> attending a workshop). But it would be great if you can discuss Rob's 
>> additional text and some of the doubts we had on principle 3 (i added 
>> comments to the text). Hopefully, John can join and is able to 
>> provide some context.
>>
>> Thanks again and i hope to see you later today!
>>
>> Yanina V. Sica, PhD
>> Lead Data Team
>> Map of Life 
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>> Center for Biodiversity and Global Change 
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>> *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> on 
>> behalf of Rob Stevenson <rdstevenson10 at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2023 10:06:18 PM
>> *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
>> *Cc:* tuco at berkeley.edu <tuco at berkeley.edu>; wmh6 at cornell.edu 
>> <wmh6 at cornell.edu>
>> *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] meeting this week
>> Dear All,
>> I wrote up some ideas.  It proved more difficult than I thought and I 
>> am not sure I captured the issue at the core of the discussion -
>> How to deal with the lowest level of the event hierarchy
>>
>> Below is the text but it is also at the bottom of our document here
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1r_XMEgB7p7OI7a5Ouq6G9oa7LmQFPcFhZZCLD9gWOIE/edit 
>> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1r_XMEgB7p7OI7a5Ouq6G9oa7LmQFPcFhZZCLD9gWOIE%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C5ed5a47179824c52af6008db82ac05b9%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638247447573583653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BFDfyxcwh4pppa%2BhgdOChIq%2BISumDpDMjmAKCKRaXM0%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>> Currently the vast majority of records in the GBIF archive contain an 
>> observation of one or more individuals of a single taxon. Many 
>> additional fields in the record, based on the Darwin Core, provide 
>> context for the observation including the observation type, the time 
>> and place of observation, the observer, etc.  At the present time, 
>> however, the metadata do not provide context about whether or not an 
>> observation is part of a systematic set of observations, herein 
>> called a survey. A survey is an approach based on the idea of 
>> statistical sampling, whereby an observer is unable to measure an 
>> entire population but instead focuses on a subset of the population 
>> to make inferences about the entire population.
>>
>> The added scientific value of the survey framework, over just a 
>> collection of unrelate observations indicating present only, is that 
>> a scientist can make inferences about how common or rare a taxon 
>> might be (its status) and over time, measure trends. The basic idea 
>> of a survey is intuitive: the more you look, the more you will find. 
>> In the fisheries literature this idea is called “catch per unit effort”.
>>
>> The goal of the Humboldt extension is to accurately describe a survey 
>> and its often hierarchical nature. Whereas an observation record is 
>> characterized by general sense of the observation approach (Basis of 
>> Record), a time and a location, a survey has a much more detailed 
>> description of the observation technique(s), and also includes the 
>> number of sampling units employed, a time or time interval (start 
>> time and duration), and a measure of the spatial extent over which 
>> the survey was conducted.
>>
>> A sampling unit, the finest measurement resolution of a survey, 
>> encompasses a variety of ways of looking for species.  It might include:
>>
>> A physical sample such as a leaf or a water sample containing 
>> molecules of DNA
>> One or several sweeps of a net containing a collection of insects
>> Camera trap – collection of images of mammals
>> Quadrat  – estimating the percentage of space or numbers of space 
>> occupying organisms such as plants or clams
>> Bird checklist – list of species of birds observed from a fixed-point
>>
>> Special considerations arise at the sampling unit level. First a 
>> measurement can detect no individuals or space occupied. In these 
>> cases the data need to reflect this fact with recording  0 for the 
>> observation. Second a measurement might be more than just a number or 
>> percentage.  It might a be compound structure that includes the 
>> flowering stage of each plant in a quadrat or the length and body 
>> mass of each insect in the sweep net sample or the location of each 
>> bird along a transect.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 8:08 AM Dmitry Schigel <dschigel at gbif.org> wrote:
>>
>>     Stuck in a GBIF meeting, not joining today
>>
>>     DS
>>
>>     *From:* tdwg-humboldt <tdwg-humboldt-bounces at lists.tdwg.org> *On
>>     Behalf Of *John Wieczorek
>>     *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 July, 2023 21:30
>>     *To:* Humboldt Core TG <tdwg-humboldt at lists.tdwg.org>
>>     *Cc:* wmh6 at cornell.edu
>>     *Subject:* Re: [tdwg-humboldt] meeting this week
>>
>>     Hi folks,
>>
>>     I am giving the second module of a course on georeferencing
>>     tomorrow throughout the time of the Task Group call. I haven't
>>     mastered the two places at once thing, unfortunately.
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     John
>>
>>     On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 4:27 PM ys628 <yanina.sica at yale.edu> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi all,
>>
>>         Lets discuss theHierarchical Document
>>         <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1r_XMEgB7p7OI7a5Ouq6G9oa7LmQFPcFhZZCLD9gWOIE%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C5ed5a47179824c52af6008db82ac05b9%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638247447573583653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BFDfyxcwh4pppa%2BhgdOChIq%2BISumDpDMjmAKCKRaXM0%3D&reserved=0>this
>>         week!
>>
>>         With the TDWG 2023 rush, people might not have had time to
>>         review or work on it. If that is the case, we can have a
>>         rather short meeting to agree on the next steps.
>>
>>         See you!
>>
>>         Yani
>>
>>         <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1r_XMEgB7p7OI7a5Ouq6G9oa7LmQFPcFhZZCLD9gWOIE%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C5ed5a47179824c52af6008db82ac05b9%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638247447573583653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BFDfyxcwh4pppa%2BhgdOChIq%2BISumDpDMjmAKCKRaXM0%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>         	
>>
>>         Hierarchical Events in Humboldt Extension for ecological
>>         inventories
>>         <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fdocument%2Fd%2F1r_XMEgB7p7OI7a5Ouq6G9oa7LmQFPcFhZZCLD9gWOIE%2Fedit&data=05%7C01%7Cymgan%40naturalsciences.be%7C5ed5a47179824c52af6008db82ac05b9%7C4da8d35db472419c9e15665786aadbfb%7C1%7C0%7C638247447573583653%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=BFDfyxcwh4pppa%2BhgdOChIq%2BISumDpDMjmAKCKRaXM0%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>         Properties of hierarchical Events in Humboldt Extension for
>>         ecological inventories Title: Properties of hierarchical
>>         Events in Humboldt Extension for ecological inventories Date
>>         version issued: 2023-xx-xx Date created: 2023-xx-xx Part of
>>         TDWG Standard: http://www.tdwg.org/standards/450
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>>         This ...
>>
>>         docs.google.com
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>>         Yanina V. Sica, PhD
>>
>>         Lead Data Team
>>
>>         Map of Life
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>>         Center for Biodiversity and Global Change
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Dr Anahita JN Kazem

Data Steward & Biodiversity Informatics Scientist

Data & Code Unit (iBID / iBON)
German Centre for Integrative Biodiversity Research (iDiv)
Halle-Jena-Leipzig  |www.idiv.de

Department of Informatics
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