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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Quentin et al.,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Plinian Core is active and backed up by an international group that seeks expansion. A session is planned in TDWG 2016 about it within the Species Information Interest Group slot.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>"Invasiveness" is a section within the Plinian Core schema:</span> <a href="https://github.com/PlinianCore/Documentation/wiki/InvasivenessClass"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>https://github.com/PlinianCore/Documentation/wiki/InvasivenessClass</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> It is much based on the GISIN schema. This can be revisited, updated and harmonized with current initiatives, some mentioned in this thread. Quentin, we may do a bit of exchange of-list<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Whereas shared vocabularies bring plenty of good things , I share Chuck’s concerns about imposing some unwanted limitations for some potential users of the schema.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Paco<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Francisco Pando<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Investigador <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Real Jardín Botánico - CSIC <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Plaza de Murillo, 2 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>28014 Madrid, Spain <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES-TRAD style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;color:#1F497D'>Tel.+34 91 420 3017 x 172<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=ES style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tdwg-content [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Quentin Groom<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 23, 2016 10:10 PM<br><b>To:</b> Chuck Miller<br><b>Cc:</b> TDWG Content Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-content] A proposal to improve Darwin Core for invasive species data<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Chuck,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>thanks for your point. The use cases I'm thinking of are conservation red-listing; horizon-scanning for potential new invasives; early warning of new aliens; impact assessment and invasion monitoring. We have recently be discussing the possibility of automating all of these process so that they can be repeated regularly, or as soon as new data becomes available. Obviously, for this we need observations, but we also need check-lists to tell us what is considered native or alien, present or extinct.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I know more about invasive species research than red-listing, but I am aware that the current rate of red-listing is so slow that most things will become extinct before they are assessed. Given that the IUCN criteria are so clear, it should be possible to automate the whole process using GBIF. The only limitation with then be mobilizing the observations.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Quentin<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dr. Quentin Groom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>(Botany and Information Technology)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Botanic Garden Meise<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Domein van Bouchout<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>B-1860 Meise<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Belgium<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0596-5376" target="_blank">ORCID: 0000-0002-0596-5376</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Landline; +32 (0) 226 009 20 ext. 364<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>FAX: +32 (0) 226 009 45<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>E-mail: <a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Skype name: qgroom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Website: <a href="http://www.botanicgarden.be" target="_blank">www.botanicgarden.be</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 23 May 2016 at 21:10, Chuck Miller <<a href="mailto:Chuck.Miller@mobot.org" target="_blank">Chuck.Miller@mobot.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Quentin,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think in addition to defining the community that needs the new Origin term, you also need to define the use cases to which the proposed controlled vocabularies for establishmentMeans and occurenceStatus apply. Darwin Core is used in multiple ways. I think there may be use cases for these terms that don’t match the invasive species use cases. One controlled vocabulary may not work for all Darwin Core users. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'>Chuck Miller | VP-IT & CIO | Missouri Botanical Garden</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#00B050'>4344 Shaw Boulevard | Saint Louis, MO 63110 | Phone 314-577-9419</span></i><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> tdwg-content [mailto:<a href="mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org" target="_blank">tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>John Wieczorek<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 23, 2016 1:36 PM<br><b>To:</b> Quentin Groom<br><b>Cc:</b> TDWG Content Mailing List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-content] A proposal to improve Darwin Core for invasive species data</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi Quentin,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you for your effort in putting forth these welll thought out proposals. At various times I have heard discussions on the inadequecy of establishmentMeans. Your work encapsulates the problem well. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>One of the things that helps when proposing to add a Darwin Core term is demonstrating that there is a community that needs it. Can you tell us who has a demonstrated need to share this information? Anyone out there who has this interest is also welcome to share that here to provide evidence of demand from more than one group, project or individual.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>John<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Quentin Groom <<a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I've been working on a proposal to improve Darwin Core for use with invasive species data.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The proposal is detailed on GitHub at <a href="https://github.com/qgroom/ias-dwc-proposal/blob/master/proposal.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/qgroom/ias-dwc-proposal/blob/master/proposal.md</a>.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The proposal is for a new term "origin" and suggested vocabularies for establishmentMeans and occurrenceStatus.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'd welcome your feedback on the proposal.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>From my perspective it provides some needed clarity on the establishmentMeans and occurrenceStatus fields, but also adds the origin that is needed for invasive species research and for conservation assessments.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I'm not sure of the best way to discuss this, but if you have concrete proposals for changes you might raise them as issues on GitHub, as well as mentioning them here.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Quentin<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dr. Quentin Groom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>(Botany and Information 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<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Landline; +32 (0) 226 009 20 ext. 364<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>FAX: +32 (0) 226 009 45<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>E-mail: <a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Skype name: qgroom<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Website: <a href="http://www.botanicgarden.be" target="_blank">www.botanicgarden.be</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal 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