<div dir="ltr"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi John,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for your comments. Regarding the community of
potential users: The impetus for putting this proposal together came from a
workshop we ran on data interoperability for invasive species research,
management and policy making. This was a meeting of about 30 scientists from
the Alien Challenge COST Action and their invited guests
(<a href="http://www.brc.ac.uk/alien-challenge/wg4">http://www.brc.ac.uk/alien-challenge/wg4</a>). We are currently writing up the
finding of the workshop, but rather than just complain about all the problems
of data interoperability, I thought it would be good to do something about it.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The users of the establishmentMeans vocabulary are intended
to be researchers of introduction pathways, with the expectation that this
information will ultimately filter through to policy making on such things as
import restrictions. The vocabulary has been taken from the IUCN so that should
be agreeable to a wide range of users.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The controlled vocabulary for occurrenceStatus and the
addition of origin are largely intended for users creating check-lists with
Darwin Core. These terms are less suitable for individual occurrences. The
knowledge of when an organism came to an area and whether it is still there is
widely used by conservationists and those interested in alien species.
Currently, Darwin Core is not very strict on its controlled vocabularies and I found
it necessary to add the new term ‘origin’ to be able to separate the length of
time a taxon had persisted at a site from how it had got there.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I have already received useful input from various people
involved with invasive species, including Annie Simpson and Peter Desmet, but
I'm curious to know what the wider biodiversity community thinks of the
proposal.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regards</p></div><div>Quentin</div><div> </div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dr. Quentin Groom</div><div>(Botany and Information Technology)</div><div><br></div><div>Botanic Garden Meise</div><div>Domein van Bouchout</div><div>B-1860 Meise</div><div>Belgium</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0596-5376" target="_blank">ORCID: 0000-0002-0596-5376</a></div><div><br></div><div>Landline; +32 (0) 226 009 20 ext. 364</div><div>FAX: +32 (0) 226 009 45</div><div><br></div><div>E-mail: <a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a></div><div>Skype name: qgroom</div><div>Website: <a href="http://www.botanicgarden.be" target="_blank">www.botanicgarden.be</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 May 2016 at 20:36, John Wieczorek <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu" target="_blank">tuco@berkeley.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hi Quentin,<div><br></div><div>Thank you for your effort in putting forth these welll thought out proposals. At various times I have heard discussions on the inadequecy of establishmentMeans. Your work encapsulates the problem well. </div><div>One of the things that helps when proposing to add a Darwin Core term is demonstrating that there is a community that needs it. Can you tell us who has a demonstrated need to share this information? Anyone out there who has this interest is also welcome to share that here to provide evidence of demand from more than one group, project or individual.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div><br></div><div>John</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 3:23 PM, Quentin Groom <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="ltr"><div>I've been working on a proposal to improve Darwin Core for use with invasive species data.</div><div><br></div><div>The proposal is detailed on GitHub at <a href="https://github.com/qgroom/ias-dwc-proposal/blob/master/proposal.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/qgroom/ias-dwc-proposal/blob/master/proposal.md</a>.</div><div><br></div><div>The proposal is for a new term "origin" and suggested vocabularies for establishmentMeans and occurrenceStatus.</div><div><br></div><div>I'd welcome your feedback on the proposal.</div><div><br></div><div>From my perspective it provides some needed clarity on the establishmentMeans and occurrenceStatus fields, but also adds the origin that is needed for invasive species research and for conservation assessments.</div><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure of the best way to discuss this, but if you have concrete proposals for changes you might raise them as issues on GitHub, as well as mentioning them here.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div>Quentin</div><div><br></div><br clear="all"><div><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dr. Quentin Groom</div><div>(Botany and Information Technology)</div><div><br></div><div>Botanic Garden Meise</div><div>Domein van Bouchout</div><div>B-1860 Meise</div><div>Belgium</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0596-5376" target="_blank">ORCID: 0000-0002-0596-5376</a></div><div><br></div><div>Landline; +32 (0) 226 009 20 ext. 364</div><div>FAX: +32 (0) 226 009 45</div><div><br></div><div>E-mail: <a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a></div><div>Skype name: qgroom</div><div>Website: <a href="http://www.botanicgarden.be" target="_blank">www.botanicgarden.be</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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