<div dir="ltr">Hi Chuck,<div>thanks for your point. The use cases I'm thinking of are conservation red-listing; horizon-scanning for potential new invasives; early warning of new aliens; impact assessment and invasion monitoring. We have recently be discussing the possibility of automating all of these process so that they can be repeated regularly, or as soon as new data becomes available. Obviously, for this we need observations, but we also need check-lists to tell us what is considered native or alien, present or extinct.</div><div>I know more about invasive species research than red-listing, but I am aware that the current rate of red-listing is so slow that most things will become extinct before they are assessed. Given that the IUCN criteria are so clear, it should be possible to automate the whole process using GBIF. The only limitation with then be mobilizing the observations.</div><div>Regards</div><div>Quentin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Dr. Quentin Groom</div><div>(Botany and Information Technology)</div><div><br></div><div>Botanic Garden Meise</div><div>Domein van Bouchout</div><div>B-1860 Meise</div><div>Belgium</div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://orcid.org/0000-0002-0596-5376" target="_blank">ORCID: 0000-0002-0596-5376</a></div><div><br></div><div>Landline; +32 (0) 226 009 20 ext. 364</div><div>FAX: +32 (0) 226 009 45</div><div><br></div><div>E-mail: <a href="mailto:quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be" target="_blank">quentin.groom@plantentuinmeise.be</a></div><div>Skype name: qgroom</div><div>Website: <a href="http://www.botanicgarden.be" target="_blank">www.botanicgarden.be</a></div><div><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 23 May 2016 at 21:10, Chuck Miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Chuck.Miller@mobot.org" target="_blank">Chuck.Miller@mobot.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I think in addition to defining the community that needs the new Origin term, you also need to define the use cases to which the proposed controlled vocabularies
for establishmentMeans and occurenceStatus apply. Darwin Core is used in multiple ways. I think there may be use cases for these terms that don’t match the invasive species use cases. One controlled vocabulary may not work for all Darwin Core users.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your effort in putting forth these welll thought out proposals. At various times I have heard discussions on the inadequecy of establishmentMeans. Your work encapsulates the problem well. <u></u><u></u></p>
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