<div dir="ltr">It would be great to hear from Pier or others more familiar with ENVO on this. <div><br></div><div>The ENVO definition of biome is : "<span style="color:rgb(35,73,121);font-family:'Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:14.7719993591309px;background-color:rgb(245,250,250)">A biome is an environmental system to which resident ecological communities have evolved adaptations." (</span><font color="#234979" face="Lucida Sans Unicode, Lucida Grande, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12px;line-height:14.7720003128052px"><a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00000428">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00000428</a>)</span></font><div><br></div><div>A resident ecological community from the perspective of a microbe likely does not care about the large-scale plant and animal communities, so it is a matter of perspective taken from the point of view of the subject. To that end, leaf litter as the biome seems entirely reasonable if the microbes resident there have evolved adaptations to leaf litter.</div><div><br></div><div>John Deck<span style="color:rgb(35,73,121);font-family:'Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Grande',sans-serif;font-size:12px;line-height:14.7719993591309px;background-color:rgb(245,250,250)"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 15, 2015 at 5:07 AM, Steve Baskauf <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu" target="_blank">steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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I haven't looked at the definition given to "biome" in ENVO, but based
on what I believe is the common consensus on what a biome is (a major,
large-scale set of plant and animal communities occupying a geographic
region), it doesn't seem right to apply that term to "leaf litter".
There are a number of standard lists of the world's biomes and they
include large-scale regions like "temperate deciduous forest", not
small-scale features.<br>
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Ramona Walls wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">2. "There was a lot of confusion over whether
particular aspects of an environment constituted an environmental
feature, an environmental material, or a biome. The correct answer was
often dependent on context. For example if a small mammal were found in
leaf litter, then "leaf litter" would be the environmental material, and<br>
the biome would be "forest". But if a microbe were sampled from the same<br>
leaf litter, then "leaf litter" would be the biome, and I'm not sure
what the environmental material would be." <br>
-- ENVO very clearly distinguishes between a biome, a feature, and a
material. It is never the case that the same ENVO class can be use as
both a biome and a feature or a feature and a material. Although the
same entity, depending on its role, may serve as either a biome or
material (or feature for that matter), in that case, it would be an
instance of two different classes in ENVO. Take the leaf litter
example. A correct annotation would need to point to both a "leaf
litter biome" class and a "leaf litter material" class. It is really
crucial not to confuse material entities in world with the roles they
take on as instances of classes in ENVO.
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Scientific Analyst, The iPlant Collaborative, University of Arizona<br>
Research Associate, Bio5 Institute, University of Arizona<br>
Laboratory Research Associate, New York Botanical Garden</div>
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1. Re: Darwin Core Proposal - environment terms (joel sachs)<br>
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From: joel sachs <<a href="mailto:jsachs@csee.umbc.edu" target="_blank">jsachs@csee.umbc.edu</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Darwin Core Proposal - environment terms<br>
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John,<br>
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I have some concerns with these terms. As far as I can tell, no one
knows<br>
how to use these them. I was at a phenotype RCN meeting last year where<br>
the theme was environmental ontologies. The attendees were pretty savvy
in<br>
terms of both ontologies, and environmental terminology. We were given
an<br>
overview of ENVO, and then, as an experiment, we broke into groups, and<br>
each group tried to use ENVO to describe particular environments. I
don't<br>
recall any group being successful. There was a lot of confusion over<br>
whether particular aspects of an environment constituted an
environmental<br>
feature, an environmental material, or a biome. The correct answer was<br>
often dependent on context. For example if a small mammal were found in<br>
leaf litter, then "leaf litter" would be the environmental material, and<br>
the biome would be "forest". But if a microbe were sampled from the same<br>
leaf litter, then "leaf litter" would be the biome, and I'm not sure
what<br>
the environmental material would be.<br>
<br>
Due to the confusion, Pier Luigi gave us a more in-depth tutorial when
we<br>
re-convened. We didnt break back out into groups, but I wish we had,<br>
because I wonder if we would have had much more success.<br>
<br>
Creating tripartite (biome/feature/material) decompositions of habitats<br>
sometimes makes sense. Certainly, it made sense for some of the early<br>
metagenomic assays that gave rise to ENVO. But it doesn't always make<br>
sense, and there are often better ways to characterize an environment. I<br>
think it was a mistake for these terms to be made mandatory in<br>
MIxS/MIMARKS.<br>
<br>
But the question isn't "What should MIxS do four years ago?", but "What<br>
should TDWG do now?". One wrinkle is that dwc:Habitat already<br>
exists. Will it stay in the core? Is the idea to create usage guides
that<br>
explain when to use dwc:Habitat and when and how to use biome, feature,<br>
and material? Such an approach could work, but I'd like to see our usage<br>
guides differ from current ENVO/MIxS guidelines which mandate one and
only<br>
one value for each of the terms. "Environmental feature", in particular,<br>
often merits multiple uses within the same record, and I think
disallowing<br>
such usage would impede uptake of the term set. (As far as I can see<br>
from browsing metagenomic sampling metadata, it *has* impeded uptake of
the term set.)<br>
<br>
So I'm not necessarily opposed to the addition of these terms, but I do<br>
wonder why we need them.<br>
<br>
You wrote that "there is currently no possibility of a Darwin Core<br>
PreservedSpecimen or MaterialSample record to meet the minimum<br>
requirements of a Mimarks Specimen record[6], as there is currently no
way<br>
to share required environment terms." But MIMARKS specimen records are<br>
also required to have the fields "Submitted to INSDC",<br>
"Investigation-type", "Project name", "Nucleic acid sequence source",<br>
"Target gene or locus", and "Sequencing method". So won't it still be
the<br>
case that there will be no possibility of a Darwin Core record being
MIMARKS compliant, without appropriate<br>
augmentation?<br>
<br>
The terms "env_biome", "env_feature", and "env_material" already exist
in<br>
the MIxS Sample extension to Darwin Core (along with "submitted to
INSDC",<br>
etc.). Why do they need to be moved into the core?<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
Joel.<br>
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On Thu, 26 Mar 2015, John Wieczorek wrote:<br>
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> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> This message pertains to a proposal[1] set forth in September 2013<br>
> concerning the environment terms biome, environmentalFeature, and<br>
> environmentalMaterial. I'm renewing the proposal because so much
time has<br>
> passed and the original proposal was not carried through to
completion.<br>
> There were no objections to the addition of those terms during the
initial<br>
> public commentary. Discussion revolved around how the
recommendations for<br>
> how to populate them.<br>
><br>
> The recommendations for all three terms will suggest using a
controlled<br>
> vocabulary such as ENVO. The examples will be based on the set of<br>
> subclasses of the corresponding ENVO terms for biome[2],<br>
> environmentalFeature[3], and environmentalMaterial[4]. As with all
Darwin<br>
> Core terms, the constraints on content are not part of the
definition -<br>
> they are only illustrative recommendations.<br>
><br>
> The importance of these terms was recognized anew at a Darwin Core
and MIxS<br>
> Hackathon in Florence in Sep 2014[5]. One important outcome of that<br>
> workshop was the the realization that there is currently no
possibility of<br>
> a Darwin Core PreservedSpecimen or MaterialSample record to meet
the<br>
> minimum requirements of a Mimarks Specimen record[6], as there is
currently<br>
> no way to share required environment terms. This creates a huge
and easy to<br>
> solve barrier to integration of data across the collection,
sample, and<br>
> sequence realms.<br>
><br>
> This proposal is not substantively different from the one
discussed in<br>
> 2013. It differs from the final amended previous proposal in two
ways, 1)<br>
> only the three terms biome, environmentalFeature, and
environmentalMaterial<br>
> are proposed here (the proposal to change to the term 'habitat'
has been<br>
> dropped), and 2) the term definitions have been updated to agree
with those<br>
> in ENVO. The terms will be in the Darwin Core namespace (following
the TDWG<br>
> community consensus in the previous discussion as well the
consensus to<br>
> coin the MaterialSample class in the Darwin Core namespace rather
than use<br>
> obi:specimen, with the equivalency being made on the ontology side
in<br>
> BCO[7]).<br>
><br>
> The complete definitions of the three proposed terms is given
below the<br>
> following references. This reopens the 30-day public commentary
period for<br>
> the addition of new terms as described in the Darwin Core Namespace<br>
> Policy[8].<br>
><br>
> [1] Original tdwg-content proposal for environment terms.<br>
> <a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2013-September/003066.html" target="_blank">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2013-September/003066.html</a><br>
> [2] ENVO biome. <a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00000428" target="_blank">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00000428</a><br>
> [3] ENVO environmentalFeature. <a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00002297" target="_blank">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00002297</a><br>
> [4] ENVO environmentalMaterial. <a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00010483" target="_blank">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00010483</a><br>
> [5] DwC MIxS Meeting Notes.<br>
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zexgsiol6WC83vDzMTCF3uUB7DcFmKL15DFEPbw5w6c/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zexgsiol6WC83vDzMTCF3uUB7DcFmKL15DFEPbw5w6c/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
> [6] Table of the core items of Mimarks checklists.<br>
> <a href="http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v29/n5/fig_tab/nbt.1823_T1.html" target="_blank">http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v29/n5/fig_tab/nbt.1823_T1.html</a><br>
> [7] Biological Collections Ontology. <a href="https://github.com/tucotuco/bco" target="_blank">https://github.com/tucotuco/bco</a><br>
> [8] Darwin Core Namespace Policy.<br>
> <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/namespace/index.htm#classesofchanges" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/namespace/index.htm#classesofchanges</a><br>
><br>
><br>
> Term Name: biome<br>
> Identifier: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/biome" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/biome</a><br>
> Namespace: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/</a><br>
> Label: Biome<br>
> Definition: An environmental system to which resident ecological<br>
> communities have evolved adaptations.<br>
> Comment: Recommended best practice is to use a controlled
vocabulary such<br>
> as defined by the biome class of the Environment Ontology (ENVO).
Examples:<br>
> "flooded grassland biome",<br>
> "<a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_01000195" target="_blank">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_01000195</a>".<br>
> Type of Term: <a href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property</a><br>
> Refines:<br>
> Status: proposed<br>
> Date Issued: 2013-09-26<br>
> Date Modified: 2015-03-26<br>
> Has Domain:<br>
> Has Range:<br>
> Refines:<br>
> Version: biome-2015-03-26<br>
> Replaces:<br>
> IsReplaceBy:<br>
> Class: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Event" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Event</a><br>
> ABCD 2.0.6: not in ABCD<br>
><br>
> Term Name: environmentalFeature<br>
> Identifier: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/environmentalFeature" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/environmentalFeature</a><br>
> Namespace: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/</a><br>
> Label: Environmental Feature<br>
> Definition: A material entity which determines an environmental
system.<br>
> Comment: Recommended best practice is to use a controlled
vocabulary such<br>
> as defined by the environmental feature class of the Environment
Ontology<br>
> (ENVO). Examples: "meadow",<br>
> "<a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00000108" target="_blank">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00000108</a>".<br>
> Type of Term: <a href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property</a><br>
> Refines:<br>
> Status: proposed<br>
> Date Issued: 2013-09-26<br>
> Date Modified: 2015-03-26<br>
> Has Domain:<br>
> Has Range:<br>
> Refines:<br>
> Version: environmentalFeature-2015-03-26<br>
> Replaces:<br>
> IsReplaceBy:<br>
> Class: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Event" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Event</a><br>
> ABCD 2.0.6: not in ABCD<br>
><br>
> Term Name: environmentalMaterial<br>
> Identifier: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/environmentalMaterial" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/environmentalMaterial</a><br>
> Namespace: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/</a><br>
> Label: Environmental Material<br>
> Definition: A portion of environmental material is a fiat object
which<br>
> forms the medium or part of the medium of an environmental system.<br>
> Comment: Recommended best practice is to use a controlled
vocabulary such<br>
> as defined by the environmental feature class of the Environment
Ontology<br>
> (ENVO). Examples: "scum",<br>
> "<a href="http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00003930" target="_blank">http://purl.obolibrary.org/obo/ENVO_00003930</a>".<br>
> Type of Term: <a href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property</a><br>
> Refines:<br>
> Status: proposed<br>
> Date Issued: 2013-09-26<br>
> Date Modified: 2015-03-26<br>
> Has Domain:<br>
> Has Range:<br>
> Refines:<br>
> Version: environmentalMaterial-2015-03-26<br>
> Replaces:<br>
> IsReplaceBy:<br>
> Class: <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Event" target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Event</a><br>
> ABCD 2.0.6: not in ABCD<br>
><br>
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