<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"><base href="x-msg://508/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Ahem. These zipped up archives will be obsolete approximately 1 minute after zipping, if not earlier.<div><br></div><div>How is it planned to update them as names change, names of localities change, date and code and lat and long and collector and and and and and field contents are corrected over the coming days, months, weeks and years? And then when the new version of the database, field instrument output, etc. is zipped up tomorrow, how will that replace the one zipped up the day before, and already fed into the user community, along with its previous versions of the field contents? Which version of "my" database will the harvester use? My most recently zipped up and submitted, or the one from a week ago or month ago or year ago? If the db is zipped up, how will the user annotate it and that annotation get back to the parent db?</div><div><br></div><div>Just a thought from out in a mud hole.</div><div><br></div><div>Smile.</div><div><br></div><div>Dan and Winnie</div><div><br><div><div>On Oct 13, 2013, at 1:24 PM, Donald Hobern [GBIF] <<a href="mailto:dhobern@gbif.org">dhobern@gbif.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Thanks, Rich.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Very pleased to see this. With this encouragement, I'll say just a little bit more about why I think this is a critical need.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">I see the model I describe as the perfect real-world realisation of most of the key components in the GBIO Framework (<a href="http://www.biodiversityinformatics.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.biodiversityinformatics.org/</a>), as follows:<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span>1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Everyone zips up whatever data they have from each resource (databases, field instruments, sequencers, data extracted from literature, checklists, whatever) into a DwC Archive using whatever DwC elements they can for data elements and describing other elements not currently recognised in DwC (the GBIO DATA layer)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span>2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>These archives should be placed in repositories that offer basic services (DOIs, annotation services, etc.) (the GBIO CULTURE layer)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span>3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Harvesters assess the contents of each archive and determine what views can be supported from the supplied elements (occurrence records for GBIF, name usage records, species interactions, etc.) and catalogue these views in relevant discovery indexes (GBIF, Catalogue of Life, TraitBank, etc.) (the GBIO EVIDENCE layer)<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt 0.5in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; text-indent: -0.25in; "><span>4.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Users can at any time annotate elements in the archives to provide mappings for (potentially more recently defined) DwC or other properties, opening up new options for reuse<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Donald<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Donald Hobern - GBIF Director -<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:dhobern@gbif.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">dhobern@gbif.org</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Global Biodiversity Information Facility<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.gbif.org/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.gbif.org/</a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span lang="DA">GBIF Secretariat, Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100 Copenhagen Ø, Denmark<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Tel: +45 3532 1471 Mob: +45 2875 1471 Fax: +45 2875 1480<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><span lang="EN-US">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Richard Pyle [mailto:deepreef@<a href="http://bishopmuseum.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">bishopmuseum.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:49 PM<br>To: 'Donald Hobern [GBIF]'; 'TDWG Content Mailing List'<br>Cc: 'Chuck Miller'<br>Subject: RE: [tdwg-content] A plea around basisOfRecord (Was: Proposed new Darwin Core terms - abundance, abundanceAsPercent)</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Hi Donald,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">MANY thanks for this! And you are certainly not alone in your concerns about these issues. In fact, we have planned a Symposium for “Documenting DarwinCore”<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">(<a href="https://mbgserv18.mobot.org/ocs/index.php/tdwg/2013/schedConf/trackPolicies" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; "><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none; ">https://mbgserv18.mobot.org/ocs/index.php/tdwg/2013/schedConf/trackPolicies</span></a><o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">#track11), and one of the four sessions (Session 3, to be precise) of the symposium focuses exactly on this issue of basisOfRecord/dcterms:type/etc.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Another session (Session 2) will focus on proposed and perhaps-to-be-proposed new classes (Individual, MaterialSample, Evidence), and will start out with a series graphs illustrating the existing high-level ontology and possible alternative high-level ontologies, as you indicate in your items 3 & 4.<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Aloha,<o:p></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Rich<o:p></o:p></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>tdwg-content mailing list<br><a href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-content" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-content</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>