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Basically I support the views of Aaike and Donald. Keep the
quantity and unit separate. No need for special term for
AbundanceAsPercentage, then.<br>
<br>
However, I am a bit uncertain whether "Abundance" is the right
term. How about "Quantity"? It is more generic, and can be applied
for example, to a catch of 1000 kg of fish and a harvest of 200
cubic meters of timber. "Abundance" is semantically not right for
those measures.<br>
<br>
I also think that a range for the quantity is needed, to express
uncertainty about the quantity. I saw about 1000 geese this morning,
certainly more than 500 but less than 2000. Uncertainty is so
common in sightings.<br>
<br>
Are we also going to deprecate "IndividualCount"? I hope so.<br>
<br>
Hannu<br>
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On 2013-09-26 18:07, Donald Hobern [GBIF] wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Hi Rob.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">I understand your concern, but my concern is with
the opportunities we are currently missing to enable our
occurrence mobilisation processes to offer significantly
more value in many contexts. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Some of the problem may be in the use of the word
“abundance”. If we understand “abundance” to refer to the
size and density of a population or species, then a survey
may give us a workable measure we can use to represent this.
I am thinking of mobilisation of less ambitious
measurements of relative abundance of a taxon in any
sampling event or set of associated observations. I visit a
reservoir and follow some standard protocol and count 30
mallards and a single gadwall. Today that might be exposed
in simple Darwin Core as two occurrence records, each of
which might somehow include an individualCount. In the
absence of any other information, this count information
cannot be seen as much more than an anecdotal annotation.
If we understood that these two observations were part of a
single survey event associated with a protocol also used for
some number of other survey events for which we have
observations, we could (in principle) find more ways to
explore the significance of the count and use it to help to
fine-tune distribution models and to enhance them to
indicate patterns of abundance. If we can find a way to do
this consistently for all types of biodiversity observation
(malaise traps, transects, expression of ITS or CO1 from
environmental samples), a large number of databases already
contributing to GBIF and other networks could immediately
offer a richer view to users and analysts.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">I believe we could readily handle this with three
properties that are available for use with any occurrence –
a sampling event id, a sampling protocol identifier (ideally
a URL leading to information on the protocol) and a relative
abundance value within that sample. Any occurrence record
could include these fields if appropriate. Of course more
normalisation is possible, but DwC has never been about full
normalisation.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">We can debate which DwC classes ought to include
support for such elements. I personally think we’ve tied
ourselves in unnecessary knots with our use of Occurrences,
Events, Material Samples, etc. I wish we just had an agreed
meta-model/ontology which provides a graph of classes of
interest to our domain (specimen, collection, taxon concept,
taxon name, locality, collector, etc.) and a set of uniquely
named properties each of which is associated with one of
these classes or links instances of these classes. Darwin
Core should then allow for the denormalised representation
of any view corresponding to a subgraph of that model.
Occurrence, Event, etc. should then be names for
popularly-used subgraphs and should represent the logic for
unpacking those denormalised DwC records back into a graph
of meta-model objects (in other words they should express
something like what SPARQL query might be able to extract
this kind of record from data organised using the
meta-model/ontology).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"><br>
Donald<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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lang="EN-US">Donald Hobern - GBIF Director - <a
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style="color: blue;">dhobern@gbif.org</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
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lang="EN-US">Global Biodiversity Information Facility <a
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style="color: blue;">http://www.gbif.org/</span></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt;
font-family: Consolas; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" lang="DA">GBIF
Secretariat, Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100 Copenhagen Ø,
Denmark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:robgur@gmail.com">robgur@gmail.com</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:robgur@gmail.com">mailto:robgur@gmail.com</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Robert Guralnick<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 26, 2013 4:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Donald Hobern [GBIF]<br>
<b>Cc:</b> John Wieczorek; TDWG Content Mailing List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-content] Proposed new Darwin Core
terms - abundance, abundanceAsPercent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> I agree with Donald here regarding
the need for Abundance, but am, to be honest, not quite I
understand (or agree) with the logic of the proposal.
Abundance is listed as a property of an occurrence, and I
wonder if that make sense given the class definition "The
category of information pertaining to evidence of an
occurrence in nature, in a collection, or in a dataset
(specimen, observation, etc.)" Is abundance "evidence of
an occurrence in nature". To me, abundance is a property
of a survey and its associated methodology and is based on
multiple occurrences that come from a sample and a
definition of extent. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> It seems to me to be a bad fit to
scrunch abundance into the occurrence class. I recognize
that it might not quite fit anywhere in DwC yet. Wouldn't
it be better to wait to see if materialSample is ratified
as a class within the Darwin Core?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best, Rob<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 8:01 AM, Donald
Hobern [GBIF] <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dhobern@gbif.org" target="_blank">dhobern@gbif.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, John.<br>
<br>
You are correct. I think though that abundance is such a
commonly needed<br>
property that it would be a mistake not to make it work
easily even in<br>
Simple Darwin Core.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Donald<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gtuco.btuco@gmail.com">gtuco.btuco@gmail.com</a>
[mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:gtuco.btuco@gmail.com">gtuco.btuco@gmail.com</a>]
On Behalf Of John<br>
Wieczorek<br>
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:48 PM<br>
To: Donald Hobern [GBIF]<br>
Cc: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aaike.dewever@naturalsciences.be">aaike.dewever@naturalsciences.be</a>;
TDWG Content Mailing List<br>
Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Proposed new Darwin Core
terms - abundance,<br>
abundanceAsPercent<br>
<br>
Could every concept of abundance be captured in a
combination of abundance,<br>
abundanceUnit, abundanceMethod?<br>
<br>
If so, is there justification for creating new terms
at all if the concepts<br>
can be captured in MeasurentsOrFacts<br>
(<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#measureindex"
target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#measureindex</a>),
which have the<br>
following properties?<br>
<br>
measurementType<br>
measurementValue<br>
measurementAccuracy<br>
measurementUnit<br>
measurementDeterminedDate<br>
measurementDeterminedBy<br>
measurementMethod<br>
measurementRemarks<br>
<br>
The only drawback I can see is that with
MeasurementOrFacts you could not<br>
share the abunance information in Simple Darwin Core.
To understand why, see<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/simple/index.htm#rules"
target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/simple/index.htm#rules</a>.<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Donald Hobern [GBIF]
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dhobern@gbif.org">dhobern@gbif.org</a>><br>
wrote:<br>
> Thanks - I think I too have missed something. If
we want to make<br>
> these terms usable, there needs to be a simple
way to get numbers out<br>
> of records that can be compared with one another
where sampling<br>
> methods allow such comparisons. The suggested
plain text examples for<br>
> Abundance don't make this possible. Forcing
normalisation into<br>
> percentages seems an unnecessary hurdle and risks
encouraging the<br>
> impression that number of ducks on a reservoir is
somehow comparable<br>
> with percentage dry mass, proportional expression
of CO1 for a<br>
> particular species in an ecogenomics sample, or
whatever.<br>
><br>
> I would much rather we ensured we had a standard,
preferred field<br>
> which the data publisher can populate directly
with whatever number is<br>
> the most appropriate expression of the relative
abundance in the<br>
> sample. That gives consumers a clear expectation
of how to interpret and<br>
handle it.<br>
><br>
> Donald<br>
><br>
>
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href="http://www.gbif.org/" target="_blank">http://www.gbif.org/</a>
GBIF Secretariat,<br>
> Universitetsparken 15, DK-2100 Copenhagen Ø,
Denmark<br>
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href="tel:%2B45%203532%201471">+45 3532 1471</a>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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> [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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On Behalf Of Aaike De<br>
> Wever<br>
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:44 AM<br>
> To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tuco@berkeley.edu">tuco@berkeley.edu</a>;
TDWG Content Mailing List<br>
> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Proposed new Darwin
Core terms -<br>
> abundance, abundanceAsPercent<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> As somewhat of an outsider I have another
question with regards to the<br>
> proposed terms abundance and abundanceAsPercent.<br>
><br>
> Is there a specific reason for not adopting:<br>
> * the abundance field as a field to store only
the value and<br>
> * a field abundanceUnit/abundanceType to specify
whether the value is<br>
> in % of species, % of biovolume, % of biomass,
individuals/l,<br>
> ind./m^2, ind/m^3, ind./sampling
effort,...(instead of having a field<br>
specific for %)?<br>
><br>
> Maybe this has been discussed during the
hackathon and I missed it in<br>
> the report?<br>
><br>
> Thanks for considering this question.<br>
><br>
> With best regards,<br>
> Aaike<br>
><br>
> John Wieczorek wrote:<br>
>> Dear all,<br>
>><br>
>> GBIF has just published "Meeting Report: GBIF
hackathon-workshop on<br>
>> Darwin Core and sample data (22-24 May 2013)"
at<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.gbif.org/orc/?doc_id=5424"
target="_blank">http://www.gbif.org/orc/?doc_id=5424</a>.
Now that this document is<br>
>> available for public reference, I would like
to formally open the<br>
>> minimum 30-day comment period on two related
new terms proposed<br>
>> during the workshop and defined in the
referenced document.<br>
>><br>
>> The formal proposal would add the following
new terms:<br>
>><br>
>> Term Name: abundance<br>
>> Identifier: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/abundance"
target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/abundance</a><br>
>> Namespace: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http:/">http:/</a><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/" target="_blank">rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/</a><br>
>> Label: Abundance<br>
>> Definition: The number of individuals of a
taxon found in a sample.<br>
>> This is typically expressed as number per
unit of area or volume. In<br>
>> the case of vegetation and
colonial/encrusting species, percent cover<br>
>> can be used.<br>
>> Comment: Examples: "4 per square meter",
"0.32 per cubic meter",<br>
>> "24%". For discussion see<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Occurrence"
target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Occurrence</a>
(there will be no<br>
>> further documentation here until the term is
ratified) Type of Term:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property"
target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property</a><br>
>> Refines:<br>
>> Status: proposed<br>
>> Date Issued: 2012-03-01<br>
>> Date Modified: 2013-09-25<br>
>> Has Domain:<br>
>> Has Range:<br>
>> Refines:<br>
>> Version: abundance-2013-09-25<br>
>> Replaces:<br>
>> IsReplaceBy:<br>
>> Class: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Occurrence"
target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Occurrence</a><br>
>> ABCD 2.0.6: not in ABCD (someone please
confirm or deny this)<br>
>><br>
>> Term Name: abundanceAsPercent<br>
>> Identifier: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/abundanceAsPercent"
target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/abundanceAsPercent</a><br>
>> Namespace: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http:/">http:/</a><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/" target="_blank">rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/</a><br>
>> Label: Abundance as Percent<br>
>> Definition: 100 times the number of
individuals of a taxon found in a<br>
>> sample divided by the total number of
individuals of all taxa in the<br>
>> sample.<br>
>> Comment: Examples: "2.4%". For discussion see<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Occurrence"
target="_blank">http://code.google.com/p/darwincore/wiki/Occurrence</a>
(there will be no<br>
>> further documentation here until the term is
ratified) Type of Term:<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property"
target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/1999/02/22-rdf-syntax-ns#Property</a><br>
>> Refines:<br>
>> Status: proposed<br>
>> Date Issued: 2012-08-01<br>
>> Date Modified: 2013-09-25<br>
>> Has Domain:<br>
>> Has Range:<br>
>> Refines:<br>
>> Version: abundanceAsPercent-2013-09-25<br>
>> Replaces:<br>
>> IsReplaceBy:<br>
>> Class: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Occurrence"
target="_blank">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Occurrence</a><br>
>> ABCD 2.0.6: not in ABCD (someone please
confirm or deny this)<br>
>><br>
>> The related issues in the Darwin Core issue
tracker are<br>
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href="https://code.google.com/p/darwincore/issues/detail?id=142"
target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/darwincore/issues/detail?id=142</a><br>
>> and<br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://code.google.com/p/darwincore/issues/detail?id=187"
target="_blank">https://code.google.com/p/darwincore/issues/detail?id=187</a><br>
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>> If there are any objections to the changes
proposed for these new<br>
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>> Committee for authorization to put these
additions into effect after<br>
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>> John<br>
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