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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I agree. We don’t want to repeat this. Lesson learned for the future.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Baskauf<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, March 28, 2011 9:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> Markus Döring<br><b>Cc:</b> tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [tdwg-content] Stability of tdwg-content postings?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>OK, thanks all for the clarification and I'm glad to know that the messages are there to be searched for. However, I would request that there be a commitment made to not let the URLs change again (at least not if it can be helped). I believe that the tdwg-content list has some sort of official status as a record of discussion related to proposed changes to TDWG standards, and as such it should be stable. In October 2010 there were over 250 emails (many sharing the same subject line and by the same writers), some of which were extremely important in elucidating the community understanding of important concepts related to Darwin Core. I have recently spend many hours combing through these messages in an effort to summarize what was said and I've been recording the URLs of the source emails. I would not want to ever have to do that again...<br><br>Steve<br><br>260<br><br>Markus Döring wrote: <o:p></o:p></p><pre>All messages do exist and are archived. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>But when we merged the various mailinglists into one the static html view of the mailinglist had to be regenerated and apparently the urls of some messages have changed then as they use some local serial number to identify messages instead of a native message id. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>This is indeed a nasty consequence we didnt foresee and that I cant think of any solution for I am afraid.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Markus<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:50, John Wieczorek wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>Odd. The URLs in my 31 August 2010 don't seem to point to the intended<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>content any longer, but the relevant postings do still exist. Happily<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>I gave the subject headings in my posting. They are on the monthly<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>message indexes (such as<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/</a>) and have the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>subject headings:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>assertions in DwC terms<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Request for Decision for Public Review of DarwinCore Draft Standard<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Steve Baskauf<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu"><steve.baskauf@vanderbilt.edu></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><pre>I have been reviewing some posts in the tdwg-content archives and got to<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>this one:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2010-August/000060.html">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2010-August/000060.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>It references a number of previous posts related to background on the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>DwC standard, such as<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/000019.html">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/000019.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>However, those links don't seem to do anything any more. There are<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>other emails whose URLs begin with<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>found in the June 2009 archives:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/thread.html">http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/thread.html</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>but not the ones referenced in the August 2010 message. I have been<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>assuming that although it is a bit inconvenient to look things up in the<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>list archives, the messages that have been sent would nevertheless be<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>permanently archived. Is that not true?<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Steve<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D., Senior Lecturer<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Vanderbilt University Dept. of Biological Sciences<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>postal mail address:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>VU Station B 351634<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Nashville, TN 37235-1634, U.S.A.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>delivery address:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>2125 Stevenson Center<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>1161 21st Ave., S.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Nashville, TN 37235<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>office: 2128 Stevenson Center<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>phone: (615) 343-4582, fax: (615) 343-6707<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu">http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>tdwg-content mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org">tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-content">http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-content</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>tdwg-content mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org">tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-content">http://lists.tdwg.org/mailman/listinfo/tdwg-content</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre> <o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Steven J. Baskauf, Ph.D., Senior Lecturer<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Vanderbilt University Dept. of Biological Sciences<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>postal mail address:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>VU Station B 351634<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Nashville, TN 37235-1634, U.S.A.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>delivery address:<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>2125 Stevenson Center<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>1161 21st Ave., S.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Nashville, TN 37235<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>office: 2128 Stevenson Center<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>phone: (615) 343-4582, fax: (615) 343-6707<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu">http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu</a><o:p></o:p></pre></div></body></html>