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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Agree with Bob.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I suspect somewhere that ecosystems and
habitats should be given fuzzy definitions, instead of trying to establish a
non-overlapping partition.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Or at least, the allocation of species to
habitats should be fuzzy. But what a work …<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>BW<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Nicolas.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Bob Morris<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday 17 March 2011 13:27<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Tony.Rees@csiro.au<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [tdwg-content] FW:
Habitat classifications?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>In my experience, more than in any other subdiscipline of the life
sciences, environmental and/or habitat classifications proliferate--and perhaps
are difficult to reconcile with one another--for several reasons. However all
those reasons seem to be related to the context of the authors, including their
primary use cases (e.g. decision support vs. restoration vs. protection vs.
environmental impact, ....) and sometimes the organizing community's primary
subdiscipline (e.g. ecology vs genomics vs taxonomy vs economic uses
vs....). <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>So in my opinion, besides granularity, it is perhaps wise to consider
the point of view of the authors of a classification to see whether it
coincides with your purposes. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Some more classifications and references:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.iucnredlist.org/technical-documents/classification-schemes/habitats-classification-scheme-ver3">http://www.iucnredlist.org/technical-documents/classification-schemes/habitats-classification-scheme-ver3</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.iucnredlist.org/technical-documents/classification-schemes/habitats-classification-scheme-ver3"></a><a
href="http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/wetlands/classwet/referenc.htm">http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/wetlands/classwet/referenc.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a
href="http://www.npwrc.usgs.gov/resource/wetlands/classwet/referenc.htm"></a><a
href="http://www.ecosystems.ws/ecosystem_classification_systems.htm">http://www.ecosystems.ws/ecosystem_classification_systems.htm</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><a href="http://www.ecosystems.ws/ecosystem_classification_systems.htm"></a>Bob
Morris<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 11:26 PM, <Tony.Rees@csiro.au> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Apologies for cross-posting - below is a message I just sent to the
TAXACOM list, but if there are TDWG persons not on TAXACOM who have not seen it
and may have useful information, I'd be happy to receive it.<br>
<br>
Regards - Tony<br>
<br>
<br>
> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:taxacom-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu">taxacom-bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:taxacom-">taxacom-</a><br>
> <a href="mailto:bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu">bounces@mailman.nhm.ku.edu</a>]
On Behalf Of Tony.Rees@csiro.au<br>
> Sent: Thursday, 17 March 2011 2:22 PM<br>
> To: <a href="mailto:Taxacom@mailman.nhm.ku.edu">Taxacom@mailman.nhm.ku.edu</a><br>
> Subject: [ExternalEmail] [Taxacom] Habitat classifications?<br>
><br>
> Dear all,<br>
><br>
> I am interested in extending the habitat classification presently used in<br>
> my IRMNG genera and species database from the present "very
basic"<br>
> (marine/nonmarine/both) to something a bit more detailed - maybe marine,<br>
> freshwater, terrestrial with up to perhaps a dozen or so subcategories of<br>
> each, as appropriate (e.g. end up with a little nested hierarchy of maybe<br>
> 30-50 terms total).<br>
><br>
> So, I am looking for suggestions of such classifications as may already be<br>
> in use in order to either pick one up more or less unchanged, or develop<br>
> something with the best features of several. For example I am familiar<br>
> with the following off the top of my head:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://sn2000.taxonomy.nl/SyntaxHabitat.htm" target="_blank">http://sn2000.taxonomy.nl/SyntaxHabitat.htm</a>
- 23 terms, coverage a bit<br>
> uneven<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://mave.tweakdsl.nl/tn/syntax.html" target="_blank">http://mave.tweakdsl.nl/tn/syntax.html</a>
- scroll down to the section headed<br>
> "% HABITAT" -- 56 terms, looks quite useable.<br>
><br>
> Something like the EUNIS classification e.g. as accessible via<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://eunis.eea.europa.eu/habitats-code-browser.jsp"
target="_blank">http://eunis.eea.europa.eu/habitats-code-browser.jsp</a>
possibly gets too<br>
> detailed too quickly at this time for my needs, but you never know what<br>
> may end up being of value.<br>
><br>
> If list persons can point me at any other resources worth looking at, or<br>
> comment on details of the above, I would be very appreciative. It also<br>
> occurs to me that some people may have been through this exercise<br>
> previously, e.g. for "species / structured descriptive data"
purposes, so<br>
> any pointers to the results of those deliberations would also be useful.<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance,<br>
><br>
> Tony Rees<br>
> Manager, Divisional Data Centre,<br>
> CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research,<br>
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