<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>(I'll send this to tdwg-content rather than tdwg-tag)</div><div><br></div><div>We are sorting through this issue now. The TDWG vocabulary defines a property "nameComplete" which is the name without authority. It states that the name with authority belongs in a dcterms:title field</div><div><br></div><div>"<span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: monospace; ">The complete uninomial, binomial or trinomial name without any authority or year components. Every TaxonName should have a DublinCore:title property that contains the complete name string including authors and year (where appropriate).</span>"</div><div><br></div><div>I'm a tad uneasy about this: a vocabulary expressing an opinion on fields that are outside of its own uri namespace. What if my name objects are more than simply names, and I want the dcterms:title to reflect data that the tdwg vocabulary doesn't know about? I might want my title, for instance, to announce that a record is a draft or test record. In particular, our titles will be including the nomenclatural status ("nom. cons." etc) - does that mean that we are not conforming to the standard?</div><br><div><div>On 18/11/2010, at 2:31 PM, <<a href="mailto:Tony.Rees@csiro.au">Tony.Rees@csiro.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
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<div class="Section1"><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dear TDWG-persons,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I note that DwC "scientificName"
as defined at <a href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/#scientificName">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/#scientificName</a>
is supposed to include authorship, however this can also be supplied
separately in the field "scientificNameAuthorship". Under that
scenario, should authorship be also included in the scientificName field, or
omitted?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">I can see arguments either way for this -
if the authorship is included in the same field as the rest of the scientific
name, then that single value is more meaningful and better for e.g. homonym
disambiguation. On the other hand, it then requires parsing to get the
scientific name without the authority, which if done incorrectly could
introduce errors.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Any advice from the persons designing or
using this field for data exchange would be appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Regards - Tony<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Tony Rees<br>
Manager, Divisional Data Centre,<br>
CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research,<br>
GPO </span></font><font size="2" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><ns0:address w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><ns0:street w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><st1:address w:st="on"><st1:street w:st="on"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">Box</span></font></st1:street></st1:address></ns0:street><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"> 1538,</span></font></ns0:address><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><br>
</span></font><ns0:place w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><ns0:city w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">Hobart</span></font></ns0:city><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">, </span></font><ns0:state w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">Tasmania</span></font></ns0:state></ns0:place><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"> 7001, </span></font><ns0:country-region w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><ns0:place w:insauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:insdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z" w:endinsauthor="Rees, Tony (CMAR, Hobart)" w:endinsdate="2010-11-18T14:27:00Z"><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy">Australia</span></font></ns0:place></ns0:country-region><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><br>
Ph: 0362 325318 (Int: +61 362 325318)<br>
Fax: 0362 325000 (Int: +61 362 325000)</span></font></span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color:navy"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="2" color="navy" face="Arial"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">e-mail: <a href="mailto:Tony.Rees@csiro.au" title="mailto:Tony.Rees@csiro.au">Tony.Rees@csiro.au</a><br>
Manager, OBIS Australia regional node, <a href="http://www.obis.org.au/">http://www.obis.org.au/</a><br>
Biodiversity informatics research activities: <a href="http://www.cmar.csiro.au/datacentre/biodiversity.htm">http://www.cmar.csiro.au/datacentre/biodiversity.htm</a><br>
Personal info: <a href="http://www.fishbase.org/collaborators/collaboratorsummary.cfm?id=1566" title="http://www.fishbase.org/collaborators/collaboratorsummary.cfm?id=1566">http://www.fishbase.org/collaborators/collaboratorsummary.cfm?id=1566</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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