On a somewhat related note:<div><br></div><div>Has someone pointers to "real-world reasoning examples", i.e., where datasets, assertions, or other semantic web or LOD "knowledge" is used to make "interesting" inferences?</div>
<div><br></div><div>Additionally, what about simple querying (as opposed to reasoning) examples over LOD and other "data out there"? (I realize that the borderline between querying and reasoning is not as clear-cut as the terminology seems to imply; e.g., Datalog rules are commonly viewed as queries, while logic programming rules are viewed as inference rules)</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm asking also because next quarter I'll be teaching an undergraduate class on scientific data management and I'm looking for interesting datasets to play with..</div><div><br></div><div>
Thanks, best</div>
<div><br></div><div>Bertram</div><div><br></div><div><div>--</div><div>Bertram Ludäscher</div><div>Professor of Computer Science</div><div>Dept of Computer Science & Genome Center</div><div>University of California, Davis </div>
<div><a href="mailto:ludaesch@ucdavis.edu">ludaesch@ucdavis.edu</a> / <a href="http://daks.ucdavis.edu">daks.ucdavis.edu</a></div><div>Phone: +1-530-554-1800</div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 5:10 AM, Paul Murray <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pmurray@anbg.gov.au">pmurray@anbg.gov.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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> Anybody can do that, so how do we certify metadata sources as "trusted" in our community? The state of the LOD cloud at the moment reminds me of the early days of email and the Web, when it was reasonably "safe" to assume that users' intentions were good. Then came viruses, trojans, phishing scams, etc. If those kinds of things had been considered at the start of email and the Web and considered in its design, it would have been easier to prevent (or reduce) the evolution of nefarious uses of the Web. Perhaps we should be thinking about that more now when we are in the early stages of designing for the "semantic web".<br>
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</div>"The cloud" is never going to be a consistent ontology (it only takes one person asserting "A is not A" ). When you ask a reasoner to reason, you always give it a limited set of triples that you trust for its axioms. I haven't looked into it yet in any detail, but I think that this is the role of SPARQL - it becomes possible to say "using the reasoning rules *here* and *here*, reason over all the triples served up at at <a href="http://biodiversity.org.au" target="_blank">biodiversity.org.au</a> and <a href="http://zoobank.org" target="_blank">zoobank.org</a>". The other alternative is "importing" all of the individual URIs at <a href="http://biodiversity.org.au" target="_blank">biodiversity.org.au</a>, which is obviously infeasible.<br>
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> There has been the suggestion made by several people that we need a second kind of Darwin Core, an RDF recommendation that will allow for deep semantic reasoning.<br>
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</div>I don't think you need an entirely different DwC. What will serve the purpose is a auxiliary vocabulary document. A separate document with OWL rules about the DwC predicates, which you can choose to import and reason over. Those rules don't need to be in the document defining the vocabulary. Perhaps more than one ruleset.<br>
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