<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I think the pic was stripped by the listserv. Here it is <span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: 'lucida grande', tahoma, verdana, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-size: 11px; "><h3 class="UIIntentionalStory_Message" data-ft="{"type":"msg"}" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(51, 51, 51); margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; padding-top: 0px; padding-right: 0px; padding-bottom: 0px; padding-left: 0px; font-weight: normal; "><span class="UIStory_Message"><a href="http://bit.ly/9YQHMf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" style="cursor: pointer; color: rgb(59, 89, 152); text-decoration: underline; ">http://bit.ly/9YQHMf</a></span></h3></span><div><br></div><div>Nico</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div>On Nov 4, 2010, at 5:10 AM, Richard Pyle wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><br>Nice pic! I remember when you took it. For those who don't know us<br>personally, Bob is the one standing, waving his arms (as Bob is prone to<br>do). I am the one in the lower right foreground, looking like I've gone<br>without sleep for days (as I am prone to do).<br><br>At the time, I was looking over your shoulder and saw that you were tweeting<br>back and forth with Jim Croft (and I think Rod Page as well). What made<br>that funny to me was that Jim was in the room, just out of frame on the left<br>side of the photo, and Rod was (presumably) in Glasgow, and the three of you<br>were having a virtual conversation in real time, during a conference<br>presentation. It's a different world....<br><br>Anyway, to bring it back into scope for this email list, I'll note that in<br>the photo I'm wearing my treasured GBIF/TDWG T-shirt, customized with the<br>embroidered caption, "GUID's Rule". I think of "GUID's" as possesive, so<br>it's comparable to something like "God's Rule". Coincidentally, I happen to<br>be wearing that very same shirt right now.<br><br>So...where were we?<br><br>Rich<br><br>P.S. One final off-topic salvo: Nico, you have no idea how jealous I am that<br>you were at the rally!<br><br><br><br><br>________________________________<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>From: Nico Cellinese [mailto:ncellinese@flmnh.ufl.edu] <br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 5:21 PM<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>To: Bob Morris<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Cc: Richard Pyle; <a href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org">tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</a><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] A question of Ranks [was: Re:<br>tdwg-content Digest, Vol 20, Issue 17]<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Of course Bob!! <br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Nico (picking up her pieces after exploding)<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>On Nov 3, 2010, at 11:15 PM, Bob Morris wrote:<br><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Ah, but here's the rub when it comes to Propositional or<br>First Order Logic: If there is any assertion of Rich's---or anybody<br>else's---about which you, Nico C, both agree and disagree, then every<br>assertion whatsoever of yours is correct. Now that part, I realize you<br>already accept. The catch is that every assertion whatsoever of yours is<br>also false. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_explosion</a> <br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>--Bob<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Nico Cellinese<br><<a href="mailto:ncellinese@flmnh.ufl.edu">ncellinese@flmnh.ufl.edu</a>> wrote:<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Wonderful to agree and disagree with you, yes<br>indeed, even better with *spirit*! <br><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Jon Stewart would be proud of us both.<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>I went to the rally in DC last Saturday! We two are<br>indeed sane :-)<br><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>As for the utility of ranks -- well, I'm<br>ready to agree to disagree, as long<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>as we can both acknowledge that lots and<br>lots of existing data "out there"<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>are still classified (in a taxonomic sense)<br>against the Linnaean<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>nomenclatural system, for which<br>dwc:taxonRank is a relevant (at least)<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>attribute.<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><br><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Indeed! As mentioned in a previous email to you, I<br>can live (even happy) with dwc:taxonRank :-)<br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Nico (who does not believe in species but thinks<br>only clades are real)<br><br><br><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Nico Cellinese, Ph.D.<br><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> 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