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size=2 face=Arial>This is mostly over my head, but I do have a more general
question along these lines:</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>To what extent are we likely to be implementing substantive
machine reasoning for Agents within the context of biodiversity
informatics? I can see some value in terms of de-duplication of literature
citations, and maybe a few other things here and there such as copyright
ownership. But I take the absence of an Agent class within DwC as an
indication that our community does not have as much a need for semantic
reasoning for Agents (compared to, say, taxa and localities, among
others).</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=354371105-03112010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>If I'm missing something here, I'd very much like to be
informed.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=354371105-03112010><FONT color=#0000ff
size=2 face=Arial>Aloha,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2 face=Arial>Rich</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> Bob Morris [mailto:morris.bob@gmail.com]
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 02, 2010 6:56 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Richard
Pyle<BR><B>Cc:</B> Paul Murray; Steve Baskauf;
tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tdwg-content] Comments on
Cam's RDF practical details of recording a determination What is an
Occurrence? [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>If machine reasoning is a goal, I would be wary of FOAF. An
OWL2-DL, or other OWL2 tractable reasoning profile, version remains a moving
target, to the best of my knowledge. The reasons that <A
href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/"
target=_blank>http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/</A> is not subject to tractable
reasoning are relatively manageable, but I can no longer find the Zimmerman
proposal for a FOAF DL version referenced in the thread ending at <A
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2010Jul/0378.html">http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2010Jul/0378.html</A><BR><BR>Can
someone point me at a DL version of FOAF and indication that it is actively
under discussion somewhere?<BR><BR>Thanks<BR><BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Richard Pyle <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A
href="mailto:deepreef@bishopmuseum.org">deepreef@bishopmuseum.org</A>></SPAN>
wrote:<BR>
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class=gmail_quote><BR>I was thoroughly delighted to learn recently that FOAF
uses terms in almost<BR>exactly the same way that I had structured my
"Agents" data (right down to<BR>the same exat terms, in most cases). I
plan to move forward with the FOAF<BR>terms that are relevant (thanks to
John W. for pointing this out to me at<BR>TDWG).<BR><BR>Rich<BR>
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<DIV class=h5><BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>> From: <A
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On Behalf Of Paul Murray<BR>> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2010 4:18
PM<BR>> To: Steve Baskauf<BR>> Cc: <A
href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org">tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</A><BR>>
Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Comments on Cam's RDF practical<BR>> details
of recording a determination What is an Occurrence?<BR>>
[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]<BR>><BR>><BR>> On 29/10/2010, at 12:41 AM, Steve
Baskauf wrote:<BR>><BR>> > I think both dwc:recordedBy for the
Occurrence and<BR>> dcterms:created for some tokens should be
provided.<BR>> Depending on the situation, they might be different
entities<BR>> (I think John Wieczorek pointed this out in an
earlier<BR>> thread). dwc:recordedBy is specifically supposed to be
a<BR>> person whereas I think dcterms:creator could be a person
or<BR>> an institution.<BR>><BR>> Perhaps it might be worthwhile
leveraging the FOAF vocabulary<BR>> (Friend of a Friend). It's mainly
meant for social<BR>> networking, but nevertheless it does contain terms
such as<BR>> Person, Organisation, Group and Project. (Project is<BR>>
interesting - collection activities perhaps are FOAF
Projects).<BR>><BR>> The spec is here: <A
href="http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/"
target=_blank>http://xmlns.com/foaf/spec/</A><BR>><BR>> We can
envisage the day where, by following links on<BR>> taxonomic web pages,
you could eventually find an Author's<BR>> current twitter address, or
ask the semantic web "find me all<BR>> specimens of genus Tandanus
collected by teams affiliated<BR>> with the university of NSW between
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