Hi Bob,<div><br></div><div>I need to think about this a little more, but these are records that I had previously exposed on GeoSpecies as cc with attribution., so they were a change.</div><div><br></div><div>Also they include a photograph as supporting evidence, see foaf:depiction.</div>
<div><br></div><div>These were mainly done to create examples that showed an Occurrence, Individual, Identification and used the ietf proposal for an &quot;Area&quot; geo e.g.</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;geo:44.86528100,-87.23147800;u=10&quot;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The example creates these in one RDF file, but assertions etc. can be made about these individual entities as if they were separate things.</div><div><br></div><div>I think most data sets will probably need some sort of license that allows them to be used but with some sort of attribution.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I would be interested in hearing people&#39;s opinion on what they would recommend.</div><div><br></div><div>Also these records were created for purposes of the discussion, there are some other aspects that I will probably change in the future.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Below is the actual RDF for the #Occurrence element.</div><div><br></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">&lt;txn:Occurrence rdf:about=&quot;<a href="http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9#Occurrence">http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9#Occurrence</a>&quot;&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;dcterms:title&gt;Boloria selene Occurrence Shivering Sands Natural Area Woods 2005-07-24/2005-07-24&lt;/dcterms:title&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;dcterms:isPartOf rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/void#this">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/void#this</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;dcterms:identifier&gt;<a href="http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9#Occurrence">http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9#Occurrence</a>&lt;/dcterms:identifier&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;cc:license rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/">http://creativecommons.org/publicdomain/</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;cc:attributionURL rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org">http://lod.taxonconcept.org</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;cc:attributionName&gt;Peter J. DeVries&lt;/cc:attributionName&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;cc:morePermissions rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://about.geospecies.org/projects/">http://about.geospecies.org/projects/</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;dcterms:created&gt;2010-10-21T00:00:00-0500&lt;/dcterms:created&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;dcterms:modified&gt;2010-10-22T00:10:51-0500&lt;/dcterms:modified&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceHasSpeciesOccurrenceTag rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/ICmLC#Occurrence">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/ICmLC#Occurrence</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceHasSpeciesConcept rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/ICmLC#Species">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/ICmLC#Species</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceHasIndividual rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9#Individual">http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9#Individual</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:hasScientificName&gt;Boloria selene&lt;/txn:hasScientificName&gt;</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:continent&gt;North America&lt;/txn:continent&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:countryCode&gt;US&lt;/txn:countryCode&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:country&gt;United States&lt;/txn:country&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:stateProvince&gt;Wisconsin&lt;/txn:stateProvince&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:county&gt;Door&lt;/txn:county&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:localityText&gt;Town of Sevastopol&lt;/txn:localityText&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:locationName&gt;Shivering Sands Natural Area Woods&lt;/txn:locationName&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceHasArea rdf:resource=&quot;geo:44.86528100,-87.23147800;u=10&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;geo:lat&gt;44.86528100&lt;/geo:lat&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;geo:long&gt;-87.23147800&lt;/geo:long&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:georeferenceProtocol rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#GeoProtocol_GPS">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#GeoProtocol_GPS</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:georeferenceVerificationStatus rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#GeoVerifiedByCollector">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#GeoVerifiedByCollector</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceInContinent rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/">http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceInStateProvince rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://sws.geonames.org/5279468/">http://sws.geonames.org/5279468/</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:occurrenceInCounty rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://sws.geonames.org/5250768/">http://sws.geonames.org/5250768/</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;!-- The dates should be refactored into a standard date vocabulary --&gt;</span></font></div><div>
<font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:startDate&gt;2005-07-24&lt;/txn:startDate&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:endDate&gt;2005-07-24&lt;/txn:endDate&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:samplingProtocol rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#SamplingProtocol_IndividualObservation">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#SamplingProtocol_IndividualObservation</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;!-- collector and identified by should be foaf:Person --&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:collector rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/people.owl#Peter_J_DeVries">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/people.owl#Peter_J_DeVries</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:identifiedBy rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/people.owl#Kyle_E_Johnson">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/people.owl#Kyle_E_Johnson</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;!-- identificationDate should have a standard type for year --&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:identificationDate&gt;2008&lt;/txn:identificationDate&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:identifiedAs rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/ICmLC#Species">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/ICmLC#Species</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;!-- The literals below should be replaced with URI&#39;s --&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:institutionCode&gt;IRCW&lt;/txn:institutionCode&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:collectionCode&gt;PJDPO&lt;/txn:collectionCode&gt;</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:catalogCode&gt;PJDPO000179&lt;/txn:catalogCode&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:individualStatus rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#IndividualStatus_Unknown">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#IndividualStatus_Unknown</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;txn:basisOfRecord rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#BasisOfRecord_StillImage">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#BasisOfRecord_StillImage</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;foaf:depiction rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://assets.geospecies.org/spec_concept_uuid/e096643b-ff98-4f51-bd80-3ff0ca88a924/Boloria_selene.jpg">http://assets.geospecies.org/spec_concept_uuid/e096643b-ff98-4f51-bd80-3ff0ca88a924/Boloria_selene.jpg</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">  &lt;foaf:page rdf:resource=&quot;<a href="http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9.rdf">http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9.rdf</a>&quot;/&gt;</span></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: x-small;">&lt;/txn:Occurrence&gt;</span></font></div></div><div><br></div><div>Respectfully,</div><div><br></div>
<div>- Pete<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Peter DeVries <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:pete.devries@gmail.com">pete.devries@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
Hi Bob,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for this. I will look into fixing this.</div><div><br></div><div>- Pete<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 24, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Bob Morris <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:morris.bob@gmail.com" target="_blank">morris.bob@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>

<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Peter DeVries &lt;<a href="mailto:pete.devries@gmail.com" target="_blank">pete.devries@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>


&gt; I have redone my occurrence records to match the single example I had posted<br>
&gt; before. (Go to the last example, if you just want something pretty)<br>
&gt; Here is the<br>
&gt; RDF: <a href="http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9.rdf" target="_blank">http://ocs.taxonconcept.org/ocs/f522444a-2dd9-400e-be59-47213ef38cb9.rdf</a><br>
&gt;[...]<br>
<br>
&gt; - Pete<br>
<br>
Without regard to the structure of your RDF but rather to your license<br>
attribute on txn:Occurrence, you might care that<br>
    (a) the CC Public Domain Mark license is intended to apply to work<br>
that was once copyrighted but now isn&#39;t.<br>
    (b)For lots of reasons, CC now recommends against the use of CC<br>
licenses for data ( [1], [2] ).<br>
    (c)Without regard to whether data is copyrightable, CC licenses<br>
only apply to copyrightable material; in all countries subscribing to<br>
the  Copyright Convention, only creative works are copyrightable;  I&#39;m<br>
pretty sure you don&#39;t intend that an Occurrence is a creative work (or<br>
even that its expression is--at least an expression in a standard<br>
form).<br>
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[1] <a href="http://sciencecommons.org/projects/publishing/open-access-data-protocol/" target="_blank">http://sciencecommons.org/projects/publishing/open-access-data-protocol/</a><br>
[2] <a href="http://sciencecommons.org/resources/faq/database-protocol/" target="_blank">http://sciencecommons.org/resources/faq/database-protocol/</a><br>
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