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size=2 face=Arial>I'm not so sure a simple flag will do it. We have
examples ranging from animals in zoos, to escaped animals, to intentionally and
unintentionally introduced populations, to naturalized populations -- and just
about everything in-between. Where on this spectrum would you draw the
line for flagging something as "naturally occurring"?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT size=2 face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org
[mailto:tdwg-content-bounces@lists.tdwg.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Donald.Hobern@csiro.au<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 11, 2010 2:59
PM<BR><B>To:</B> tuco@berkeley.edu<BR><B>Cc:</B> tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org;
tdwg-bioblitz@googlegroups.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [tdwg-content] What I
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is useful, but completely uncontrolled – effectively a
verbatimEstablishmentMeans. Having a more controlled version or a simple
flag which could be machine-processible in those cases where providers can
supply it would be useful.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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gtuco.btuco@gmail.com [mailto:gtuco.btuco@gmail.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>John
Wieczorek<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, 12 October 2010 11:34 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
Hobern, Donald (CES, Black Mountain)<BR><B>Cc:</B> jsachs@csee.umbc.edu;
tdwg-bioblitz@googlegroups.com; tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [tdwg-content] What I learned at the
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<P style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt" class=MsoNormal>Natural occurrence is meant to
be captured through the term dwc:establishmentMeans (<A
href="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#establishmentMeans">http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/index.htm#establishmentMeans</A>).<o:p></o:p></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 5:16 PM,
<Donald.Hobern@csiro.au> wrote:<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Joel.<BR><BR>Nice summary. One addition which
we do need to resolve (and which has been suggested in recent months) is to
have a flag to indicate whether a record should be considered to show a
"natural" occurrence (in distinction from cultivation, botanic gardens, zoos,
etc.). This is not so much an issue in a BioBlitz, but is certainly a factor
with citizen science recording in general - see the number of zoo animals in
the Flickr EOL group.<BR><BR>Donald<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>Donald Hobern,
Director, Atlas of Living Australia<BR>CSIRO Ecosystem Sciences, GPO Box 1700,
Canberra, ACT 2601<BR>Phone: (02) 62464352 Mobile: 0437990208<BR>Email:
Donald.Hobern@csiro.au<BR>Web: <A href="http://www.ala.org.au/"
target=_blank>http://www.ala.org.au/</A><o:p></o:p></P>
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On Behalf Of joel sachs<BR>Sent: Monday, 11 October 2010 10:47 PM<BR>To: <A
href="mailto:tdwg-bioblitz@googlegroups.com">tdwg-bioblitz@googlegroups.com</A>;
<A
href="mailto:tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org">tdwg-content@lists.tdwg.org</A><BR>Subject:
[tdwg-content] What I learned at the TechnoBioBlitz<BR><BR>One of the goals of
the recent bioblitz was to think about the suitability and appropriatness of
TDWG standards for citizen science. Robert Stevenson has volunteered to take
the lead on preparing a technobioblitz lessons learned document, and though
the scope of this document is not yet determined, I think the audience will
include bioblitz organizers, software developers, and TDWG as a whole. I hope
no one is shy about sharing lessons they think they learned, or suggestions
that they have. We can use the bioblitz google group for this discussion, and
copy in tdwg-content when our discussion is standards-specific.<BR><BR>Here
are some of my immediate observations:<BR><BR>1. Darwin Core is almost exactly
right for citizen science. However, there is a desperate need for examples and
templates of its use. To illustrate this need: one of the developers spoke of
the design choice between "a simple csv file and a Darwin Core record". But a
simple csv file is a legitimate representation of Darwin Core! To be fair to
the developer, such a sentence might not have struck me as absurd a year ago,
before Remsen said "let's use DwC for the bioblitz".<BR><BR>We provided a
couple of example DwC records (text and rdf) in the bioblitz data profile [1].
I think the lessons learned document should include an on-line catalog
of cut-and-pasteable examples covering a variety of use cases, together with a
dead simple desciption of DwC, something like "Darwin Core is a collection of
terms, together with definitions."<BR><BR>Here are areas where we augemented
or diverged from DwC in the bioblitz:<BR><BR>i. We added obs:observedBy [2],
since there is no equivalent property in DwC, and it's important in Citizen
Science (though often not available).<BR><BR>ii. We used geo:lat and geo:long
[3] instead of DwC terms for latitude and longitude. The geo namespace is a
well used and supported standard, and records with geo coordinates are
automatically mapped by several applications. Since everyone was using GPS
to retrieve their coordinates, we were able to assume WGS-84 as the
datum.<BR><BR>If someone had used another Datum, say XYZ, we would have added
columns to the Fusion table so that they could have expressed their
coordiantes in DwC, as,
e.g.:<BR>DwC:decimalLatitude=41.5<BR>DwC:decimalLongitude=-70.7<BR>DwC:geodeticDatum=XYZ<BR><BR>(I
would argue that it should be kosher DwC to express the above as simply
XYZ:lat and XYZ:long. DwC already incorporates terms from other namespaces,
such as Dublin Core, so there is precedent for this.<BR><BR>2.
DwC:scientificName might be more user friendly than taxonomy:binomial and the
other taxonomy machine tags EOL uses for flickr images. If
DwC:scientificName isn't self-explanatory enough, a user can look it up, and
see that any scientific name is acceptable, at any taxonomic rank, or not
having any rank. And once we have a scientific name, higher ranks can be
inferred.<BR><BR>3. Catalogue of Life was an important part of the workflow,
but we had some problems with it. Future bioblitzes might consider using
something like a CoL fork, as recently described by Rod Page [4].<BR><BR>4. We
didn't include "basisOfRecord" in the original data profile, and so it wasn't
a column in the Fusion Table [5]. But when a transcriber felt it was necessary
to include in order to capture data in a particular field sheet, she just
added the column to the table. This flexibility of schema is important, and is
in harmony with the semantic web.<BR><BR>5. There seemed to be enthusiasm for
another field event at next year's TDWG. This could be an opportunity to
gather other types of data (eg.<BR>character data) and thereby<BR>i) expose
meeting particpants to another set of everyday problems from the world of
biodiversity workflows, and ii) try other TDWG technology on for size, e.g.
the observation exchange format, annotation framework, etc.<BR><BR><BR>Happy
Thanksgiving to all in Canada -<BR>Joel.<BR>----<BR><BR><BR>1. <A
href="http://groups.google.com/group/tdwg-bioblitz/web/tdwg-bioblitz-profile-v1-1"
target=_blank>http://groups.google.com/group/tdwg-bioblitz/web/tdwg-bioblitz-profile-v1-1</A><BR>2.
Slightly bastardizing our old observation ontology - <A
href="http://spire.umbc.edu/ontologies/Observation.owl"
target=_blank>http://spire.umbc.edu/ontologies/Observation.owl</A><BR>3. <A
href="http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/"
target=_blank>http://www.w3.org/2003/01/geo/</A><BR>4. <A
href="http://iphylo.blogspot.com/2010/10/replicating-and-forking-data-in-2010.html"
target=_blank>http://iphylo.blogspot.com/2010/10/replicating-and-forking-data-in-2010.html</A><BR>5.
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