I think the tdwg-tag list was shutdown as part of a effort to condense the tdwg lists to those that had traffic?<div><br></div><div>- Pete<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Markus Döring <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m.doering@mac.com">m.doering@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">I am wondering if this discussion and similar rdf, lsid topics should continue on tdwg-tag rather than tdwg-content.<br>
We might bore quite a few people...<br>
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On Oct 6, 2010, at 17:13, Peter DeVries wrote:<br>
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> Some people might find the N3 serialization useful.<br>
><br>
> It simply lists the subject, predicate and object followed by a period.<br>
><br>
> It is somewhat easier to interpret, and can be easy to make. You can even create this with apps like FileMaker Pro.<br>
><br>
> You can then take this N3 form and convert it to RDF using online tools or standard libraries.<br>
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> Many if not most of the triple / quad stores can read in the n3 form directly.<br>
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> Here is an example that links a species concept to a geographical location. (in both directions)<br>
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> <<a href="http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/" target="_blank">http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/</a>> <<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#hasExpectationOf" target="_blank">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#hasExpectationOf</a>> <<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species" target="_blank">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species</a>> .<br>
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> <<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species" target="_blank">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ses/iLCOZ#Species</a>> <<a href="http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#isExpectedIn" target="_blank">http://lod.taxonconcept.org/ontology/txn.owl#isExpectedIn</a>> <<a href="http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/" target="_blank">http://sws.geonames.org/6255149/</a>> .<br>
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> - Pete<br>
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> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Bob Morris <<a href="mailto:morris.bob@gmail.com">morris.bob@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 8:53 AM, Peter DeVries <<a href="mailto:pete.devries@gmail.com">pete.devries@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> >[...]<br>
> > I think part of the problem we are having is that people are not recognizing<br>
> > how different RDF is from straight XML.<br>
> > ...<br>
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> It's way worse than that. RDF is not XML at all. RDF/XML is merely a<br>
> serialization of RDF It's not even the most human readable<br>
> serialization. In fact it is one of the \worst/ for humans who need to<br>
> figure out what triples are actually in play. It is so ubiquitous<br>
> only because there are more tools that can process RDF/XML than any of<br>
> the other RDF serialization syntaxes (syntices???). The persistent<br>
> myth that human readability is an advantage of XML pretty much ignores<br>
> all the use cases that humans have for reading something. It's about<br>
> as readable as Lisp. Indeed, a Lisp loving colleague said of XML on<br>
> the occasion of its first W3 recommendation : "I get it. It's Lisp<br>
> with pointy brackets."<br>
><br>
> Bob<br>
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