[tdwg-content] InstitutionCode - InstitutionID

Paul J. Morris mole at morris.net
Tue Jul 3 19:26:10 CEST 2012


Bob,

Not a scientific question, but a QualityControl one: Which herbarium is most likely to hold field notes and ancilary archival documents related to the duplicate set? 

-Paul

On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 22:25:23 -0400
Bob Morris <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
> So, if a proposal were made to add a term, say "originalCollectionID",
> whose value is the collectionID of the collection from which the
> duplicate set was distributed, what questions---especially what
> scientific questions---would that ID answer besides "what is the
> collection from which the duplicate set was distributed?"
> 
> Just asking....
> 
> Bob Morris
> 
> p.s. I guess I could think of some questions in the domain of the
> history of science, but I suspect DwC has lots of shortcomings for
> that domain anyway....
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Paul J. Morris <mole at morris.net>
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2 Jul 2012 23:05:38 +0000
> > Chuck Miller <Chuck.Miller at mobot.org> wrote:
> >> In the botanical world of duplicate specimens and gifting of
> >> specimens to a specialist in exchange for a determination, a plant
> >> specimen can have multiple institutions actually annotated on it
> >> and therefore multiple institutionIDs potentially associated with
> >> it. Does DwC have a way to distinguish multiple institutionIDs for
> >> a specimen - e.g. original collecting institution and current
> >> repository institution?
> >
> > Many bits are there, some bits aren't.  The occuranceID is a GUID
> > for the duplicate set (except untill we get the duplicate sets
> > sorted out, everyone is going to be serving distinct occuranceIDs
> > for each sheet in the set.  There isn't a property to hold GUIDs
> > for specimens, so we are left with the hopefully unique DarwinCore
> > doublet of collectionID/collectionCode and catalogNumber (under the
> > AppleCore guidance, we can ignore institutionCode/institutionID for
> > the most part in botany, as herbarium acronyms are placed in
> > collectionCode and GUIDs for herbaria are placed in collectionID).
> > Available for trying to cluster duplicates are recordedBy for the
> > collector name and recordNumber for the collector's number.    Once
> > we do have sets of duplicates linked with occurranceID, we don't,
> > as you point out, have any way to determine which collectionID was
> > the collection from which the duplicate set was distributed.
> >
> > -Paul
> >
> >>
> >> Chuck
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 2, 2012, at 4:44 PM, "John Wieczorek" <tuco at berkeley.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi Aaike,
> >> >
> >> > The institutionID is definitely meant to be a GUID, and as such
> >> > would not likely be of much use within an institutional database,
> >> > where the institutionID would likely be the same for every
> >> > record. Instead, it is meant to identify an institution in a
> >> > persistent, hopefully resolvable way, where resolution would be
> >> > able to give more information about the identified institution.
> >> >
> >> > Identifiers for institutions do exist. An example is
> >> > urn:lsid:biocol.org:col:34777, the institutionID in the
> >> > Biodiversity Collections Index for the University of California
> >> > Berkeley Museum of Vertebrate Zoology (MVZ), within which there
> >> > are several collections, each with its distinct collectionID,
> >> > such as urn:lsid:biocol.org:col:34818 for the Herpetology
> >> > Collection at the MVZ.
> >> >
> >> > The IDs are useful to provide the possibility of a link to other
> >> > information that may not be shared in original record. They are
> >> > also useful to distinguish the institutions and collections from
> >> > each other. For example, MVZ is the acronym used for the
> >> > Institution as a whole where the collections are housed, and it
> >> > is also used independently by each of the collections when
> >> > specimens are cited in literature. In other words, the
> >> > institutionCode (MVZ) is not distinct from the collectionCodes
> >> > (MVZ), and the collectionCodes within the institution are not
> >> > unique (all MVZ). The IDs are meant to overcome this and other
> >> > problems of reference and uniqueness.
> >> >
> >> > I hope that helps,
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 7:03 AM, Aaike De Wever
> >> > <aaike.dewever at naturalsciences.be> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Dear all,
> >> >>
> >> >> While composing a template and recommendations for the Darwin
> >> >> Core fields to supply for the BioFresh project
> >> >> <http://www.freshwaterbiodiversity.eu/>, similar to what Peter
> >> >> Desmet did for herbaria in Apple Core
> >> >> <http://code.google.com/p/applecore/>, I came across a number of
> >> >> terms which I haven't yet completely understood and hope to get
> >> >> some feedback on from this community.
> >> >>
> >> >> Two of these terms are:
> >> >>
> >> >> InstitutionCode - InstitutionID
> >> >> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/institutionCode -
> >> >> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/institutionID
> >> >>
> >> >> The name (or acronym) in use by the institution having custody
> >> >> of the object(s) or information referred to in the record. / An
> >> >> identifier for the institution having custody of the object(s)
> >> >> or information referred to in the record.
> >> >>
> >> >> I guess that the latter term is supposed to be a DOI/GUID for
> >> >> the institute, but am wondering if there is such a thing or
> >> >> whether this field is rather for internal database purposes?
> >> >>
> >> >> Any advise would be appreciated!
> >> >>
> >> >> With best regards,
> >> >> --
> >> >> Aaike De Wever
> >> >> BioFresh Science Officer
> >> >> Freshwater Laboratory, Royal Belgian Institute of Natural
> >> >> Sciences Vautierstraat 29, 1000 Brussels
> >> >> Belgium
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> >> >> mobile.: +32(0)486 28 05 93
> >> >> email: <aaike.dewever at naturalsciences.be>
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> >> >> BioFresh: <http://www.freshwaterbiodiversity.eu/> and
> >> >> <http://data.freshwaterbiodiversity.eu/>
> >> >> Belgian Biodiversity Platform: <http://www.biodiversity.be>
> >> >>
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