[tdwg-content] Stability of tdwg-content postings?

Chuck Miller Chuck.Miller at mobot.org
Mon Mar 28 16:37:04 CEST 2011


Steve,

I agree.  We don't want to repeat this.  Lesson learned for the future.

 

Chuck

 

From: tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Steve Baskauf
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 9:18 AM
To: Markus Döring
Cc: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Stability of tdwg-content postings?

 

OK, thanks all for the clarification and I'm glad to know that the messages are there to be searched for.  However, I would request that there be a commitment made to not let the URLs change again (at least not if it can be helped).  I believe that the tdwg-content list has some sort of official status as a record of discussion related to proposed changes to TDWG standards, and as such it should be stable.  In October 2010 there were over 250 emails (many sharing the same subject line and by the same writers), some of which were extremely important in elucidating the community understanding of important concepts related to Darwin Core.  I have recently spend many hours combing through these messages in an effort to summarize what was said and I've been recording the URLs of the source emails.  I would not want to ever have to do that again...

Steve

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Markus Döring wrote: 

All messages do exist and are archived. 
But when we merged the various mailinglists into one the static html view of the mailinglist had to be regenerated and apparently the urls of some messages have changed then as they use some local serial number to identify messages instead of a native message id. 
 
This is indeed a nasty consequence we didnt foresee and that I cant think of any solution for I am afraid.
 
Markus
 
 
On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:50, John Wieczorek wrote:
 
  

	Odd. The URLs in my 31 August 2010 don't seem to point to the intended
	content any longer, but the relevant postings do still exist. Happily
	I gave the subject headings in my posting. They are on the monthly
	message indexes (such as
	http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/) and have the
	subject headings:
	 
	assertions in DwC terms
	Request for Decision for Public Review of DarwinCore Draft Standard
	 
	On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Steve Baskauf
	<steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu> <mailto:steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu>  wrote:
	    

		I have been reviewing some posts in the tdwg-content archives and got to
		this one:
		http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2010-August/000060.html
		It references a number of previous posts related to background on the
		DwC standard, such as
		http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/000019.html
		However, those links don't seem to do anything any more.  There are
		other emails whose URLs begin with
		http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/
		found in the June 2009 archives:
		http://lists.tdwg.org/pipermail/tdwg-content/2009-June/thread.html
		but not the ones referenced in the August 2010 message.  I have been
		assuming that although it is a bit inconvenient to look things up in the
		list archives, the messages that have been sent would nevertheless be
		permanently archived.  Is that not true?
		 
		Steve
		 
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