[tdwg-content] Relation of GNA to TDWG vocabularies

Bob Morris morris.bob at gmail.com
Sat Nov 13 04:56:27 CET 2010


Also https://semtools.ecoinformatics.org/owlifier which lets you use
spreadsheets to develop ontologies. (That link, though, presently
conforms to the Rich Pyle rule for the TDWG Ontologies: it's, umm,
minimalistic.)

On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:32 PM, Bob Morris <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
> Nobody disputes this, and your vision for #3 is beginning to emerge
> (see, for example,
> http://neurocommons.org/page/Ontological_term_broker  and the
> drag-and-drop visual OWL ontology  editor
> http://www.ihmc.us/groups/coe/ written on top of CMap. ). People are
> also working on the integrated ontology life-cycle management systems
> you require.  I think those will be here in 3-5 years, which is just
> about the time needed to develop a good biodiversity ontology using a
> community of volunteers.  Now if you could find us some Pharma to fund
> it, maybe 2 years.  :-)
>
> Bob
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Lee Belbin <leebelbin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well stated Stan, but I'd add a third-
>>
>> 3. Effective tool/s for viewing (graph, sub-graph, tables, properties etc.),
>> add/delete/modify with adaptable governance control (e.g., assigned management
>> to sub-graph domains), annotate (with full logging of who did what, when and
>> how...). This is in effect a collaboration tool.
>>
>> Until we have a tool (preferable to tools) that can be intuitive and effective
>> for building, managing and deploying /exporting vocabs or ontologies, we will
>> struggle with this socially and technically tough, but very necessary task. The
>> social issues are the hardest, but an effective collaboration tool would be a
>> big help.
>>
>> A tool that will be readily embraced  by #2 (the domain specialists) seems far
>> more important than the tools I've seen so far that are embraced by #1 (e.g.
>> Protégé).
>>
>> That we don't have a TDWG ontology is an increasing worry.
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> Lee Belbin
>> Geospatial Team Leader
>> Atlas of Living Australia
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org
>> [mailto:tdwg-content-bounces at lists.tdwg.org] On Behalf Of Blum, Stan
>> Sent: Saturday, 13 November 2010 9:43 AM
>> To: tdwg-content at lists.tdwg.org
>> Subject: Re: [tdwg-content] Relation of GNA to TDWG vocabularies
>>
>> Progress on the TDWG ontology seems to require:
>>
>> 1) one or more people with good sense of what can be done with ontologies, both
>> in the near-term and long-term; and
>> 2) one or more people who understand the way information is partitioned in this
>> domain and how it could fit together.
>>
>> I think we have a lot of #2, but not many of #1.
>>
>> FYI, we have seed money to bring these categories together.
>>
>> -Stan
>>
>>
>> On 11/12/10 2:25 PM, "Bob Morris" <morris.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Richard Pyle
>>> <deepreef at bishopmuseum.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> [...] the current status of the TDWG-Ontology efforts.  The Google
>>>> Code website seems a bit anemic,
>>>
>>> Ooh, I love that line.  I think I'll put it in the script of my next
>>> animation, to be titled: "Alpha and Beta discuss the current status of
>>> of the TDWG-Ontology efforts"
>>>
>>> Thanks for correcting the URL.
>>>
>>> Bob
>>>
>>>
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UMASS-Boston
100 Morrissey Blvd
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Associate, Harvard University Herbaria
email: morris.bob at gmail.com
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