[tdwg-content] Use of dwc:xxxxID terms in RDF, was Re: dwc:associatedOccurrences
John Wieczorek
tuco at berkeley.edu
Tue Aug 31 22:25:47 CEST 2010
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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Steve Baskauf <
steve.baskauf at vanderbilt.edu> wrote:
> Markus,
> Thanks! After I posted the other night I was thinking that the way I had
> constructed the RDF was a bit convoluted. Your example is much more
> straightforward. (although except for a lack of typing on my part the two
> examples actually result in the same triples).
>
> As you noted, the other thing that my example has is that the record for
> the offspring makes reference to the dwc:resourceRelationshipID as a way to
> assert that the offspring has that relationship. I would be interested in
> some discussion about the appropriate use of the varous dwc:xxxxID terms
> (e.g. dwc:occurrenceID, dwc:institutionID, etc.). As was the case with the
> resourceRelationship terms, there aren't a lot of examples showing the
> proper use of these terms, with the noteworthy exception of
> http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/guides/xml/index.htm . As I see it, there
> are two possible uses of these terms. One (the "first" use) is to identify
> the actual resource that is the subject of a record. The other (the
> "second" use) is as an "IDRef" term that connects the subject resource to
> another record of a different type. In the XML example, we see both uses.
> In the first example in section 2.7 we see
>
> <dcterms:Location>
> <dwc:locationID>http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127</dwc:locationID>
> ... more metadata...
> </dcterms:Location>
> <dwc:Occurrence>
> ... more metadata ...
> <dwc:occurrenceID>urn:catalog:MVZ:Mammals:14523</dwc:occurrenceID>
> ... more metadata ...
> <dwc:locationID>http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127</dwc:locationID>
> </dwc:Occurrence>
>
> where in the dcterms:Location record, dwc:locationID indicates the
> identifier for the Location itself (i.e. the subject), while in the
> dwc:Occurrence record, dwc:locationID refers to the object of the location
> property of the Occurrence. Because of the freewheeling nature of generic
> XML files, I guess this is OK. However, when I'm trying to think clearly
> about how to express relationships in RDF, I've come to decide that I don't
> like this dual use. I would express the above relationships in RDF as
> follows:
>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127"<http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127>
> >
> <rdfs:type rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location"<http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location>
> />
> ...metadata...
> </rdf:Description>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about=
> "http://resolver.org/urn:catalog:MVZ:Mammals:14523"<http://resolver.org/urn:catalog:MVZ:Mammals:14523>
> >
> <rdfs:type rdf:resource="http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Occurrence"<http://rs.tdwg.org/dwc/terms/Occurrence>
> />
> ... metadata...
> <dwc:locationID rdf:resource="http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127"<http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127>
> />
> </rdf:Description>
>
> To me this makes the most sense. It corresponds to the "second" use in the
> XML example (it indicates the Location property of the Occurrence, i.e.
> serves as the predicate connecting the subject Occurrence to the object
> Location). One could also do something like
>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127"<http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127>
> >
> <dwc:locationID rdf:resource="http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127"<http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127>
> />
> <rdfs:type rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location"<http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location>
> />
> ...metadata...
> etc.
>
> or
>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127"<http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127>
> >
> <dwc:locationID>http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127</dwc:locationID>
> <rdfs:type rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location"<http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location>
> />
> ...metadata...
> etc.
>
> But this seems rather pointless because in the first case, the rdf:about
> attribute already provides information about the subject of the relationship
> in a Linked Data manner. In the second case, why have a special term to
> indicate a literal version of the identifier when there is a more generic
> and well-known term that is common use? e.g.
>
> <rdf:Description rdf:about="http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127"<http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127>
> >
> <dcterms:identifier>http://guid.mvz.org/sites/arg/127
> </dcterms:identifier>
> <rdfs:type rdf:resource="http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location"<http://purl.org/dc/terms/Location>
> />
> ...metadata...
> etc.
>
> In contrast, there is no simple alternative that I can see (with the
> possible exception of the dwc:relatedResource, which I wouldn't call a
> SIMPLE alternative) to using dwc:locationID as the predicate that points to
> the Location object of an Occurrence subject. Darwin Core doesn't have any
> terms specifically designed for this (such as "hasLocation" or
> "hasIdentificatin" for example) but I don't see any reason why the
> dwc:xxxxID terms couldn't be used this way.
>
> The main issue I can see with the use of these dwc:xxxxID terms is their
> placement in classes which I guess is related to their rdfs:domain .
> Although the term description comments at
> http://darwincore.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/rdf/dwcterms.rdf (is this the
> actual place where DwC is officially defined?) say that each term has a
> rdfs:domain property, they actually don't in the RDF. So the only real clue
> to the intended subjects of the dwc:xxxxID terms is the placement of the
> dwc:xxxxID terms into classes. In most cases, a dwc:xxxxID term is placed
> in the class of the thing that the term is identifying (e.g. occurrenceID is
> in the Occurrence class, identificationID is in the Identification class,
> etc.). This would hint that the terms were intended to be used with
> instances of their class as their subject. However, if the terms were used
> as IDRefs (the "second" use shown in the XML example) then they really
> should be in different classes. For example, dwc:locationID could be a
> member of the class Occurrence, since an Occurrence could have
> dwc:locationID as a property with an instance of a Location as its object.
> But then there might be the question of whether an Event could also have a
> dwc:locationID as a property and dwc:locationID shouldn't be in two
> classes. In the absence of defined rdfs:domains, I guess the terms can be
> used with pretty much any subject a user thinks makes sense. As Bob Morris
> pointed out in a recent post, there aren't very many applications that are
> doing much in the way of semantic reasoning at this point. But I suppose
> (hope?) that there could be some in the future, so achieving some kind of
> consensus on how the terms should be used in RDF would probably be good.
>
> At this point, the dwc:xxxxID terms serve a useful purpose for me in
> connecting one kind of resource to another (examples in
> http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu/ind-baskauf/41870.rdf and
> http://bioimages.vanderbilt.edu/baskauf/51363.rdf), so unless somebody
> tells me that's "wrong" and comes up with a better term to describe the
> relationships I need to describe, I'll keep using the dwc:xxxxID terms as
> IDRefs.
>
> Comments?
> Steve
>
> Markus Döring wrote:
>
> I must say it feels strange to use the id terms in rdf to refer to rdf:resources instead of holding ID literals.
> More natural to the rdf language would be <dwc:resource rdf:resource="..." /> and <dwc:relatedResource rdf:resource="..." /> I suppose, but the dwc vocabulary was built for different technologies, not rdf alone. So I guess thats the price we have to pay.
>
> Markus
>
>
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